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Old 06-24-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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I bought a used automatic transmission at a junkyard once. It was junk.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:06 AM
 
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Thanks. Well i did manage to locate a vehicle not far from me that might be a good donor. Said owner bought the engine (400 c.i. Chevy) that someone had destroked to a 377....long story short the bearings went bad, so he had redone, put it back to a 400 stroke, now he says he lost his job so he's selling. Good thing is i can try before I buy. Not sure how untame it's going to be with a 510 lift cam with 302 duration. (so he says)
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Thanks. Well i did manage to locate a vehicle not far from me that might be a good donor. Said owner bought the engine (400 c.i. Chevy) that someone had destroked to a 377....long story short the bearings went bad, so he had redone, put it back to a 400 stroke, now he says he lost his job so he's selling. Good thing is i can try before I buy. Not sure how untame it's going to be with a 510 lift cam with 302 duration. (so he says)
Ask for a cam card. If he says he don't have it, or the machine shop kept it, he may be right, but I am sure you will know when it fires up if it's an advertised duration number. (I'd bet the "302" duration is a .003" lift duration type hot "RV" cam ). Good luck on your search.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:03 AM
 
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Ask for a cam card. If he says he don't have it, or the machine shop kept it, he may be right, but I am sure you will know when it fires up if it's an advertised duration number. (I'd bet the "302" duration is a .003" lift duration type hot "RV" cam ). Good luck on your search.
Thanx....he says he has the card. I tried asking him the duration at .050 but I don't think he understood what I was trying to ask. He starts rattling off a bunch of numbers over the phone but clearly you could tell he was unsure of himself. Of course I didn't think to ask what brand cam or if it was a flat tappet (probably) or roller (probably not) or if it was a hydro or mechanical...at least he did mention the 3500 jegs off-the-shelf converter in it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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And while it takes longer, there is nothing wrong with building the new engine yourself. It cost more, but you know what you have without doubt. May I ask what part of the country you are in?
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Hey Deez have you thought of going with a Built T-56 6-speed over a Muncie 4-speed engines and trans Combo?
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Butler County Ohio and Winters in Florida
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I bought a 2002 Ram 1500 4x4 a few years back with a bad engine, killed due to lack of oil changes.
I bought a used 4.7 from a local auto used car parts place. The engine had a mid year change and we installed the wrong engine. We finally got the right engine and the trucks worked well.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:37 PM
 
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And while it takes longer, there is nothing wrong with building the new engine yourself. It cost more, but you know what you have without doubt. May I ask what part of the country you are in?
True...just I don't really have the time or tools to build an engine. I'm in Missouri, 60 miles east of Kansas City.

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Hey Deez have you thought of going with a Built T-56 6-speed over a Muncie 4-speed engines and trans Combo?
Only if it doesn't involve hacking up the trans tunnel.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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I have had good to fair luck with private party used engines and transmissions. Certainly for the engines you can at least pop the oil fill off and look inside with a small flashlight, see how clean or dirty it is. If you can get your hands on a borescope, you could pull a plug and look at a cylinder, and you could go in through the carb/throttle body and look at the intake, intake valves, etc.

Once you have bought an engine, particularly, you *could* for example pull the oil pan and take a look at the bottom end, maybe you can use a dial indicator to get at least a rough idea of big end clearances (I have never done this but would think it would work - anybody ever try this?) Of course, look to see how much "crud" is inside the pan. Using a flashlight you can see some of the cylinder bores from there. If all looks good, put the pan back on with a new gasket, if things don't look so kosher, you could continue the teardown, partial or full. One thing you can check with a dial indicator is the thrust bearing clearance, and you can do this with the engine fully assembled, if you have a dial indicator, set it up on the block with the indicator on the harmonic balancer or crank pulley, then use a pry bar to push/pull the crank. You need to know what the spec is for the engine in question or you won't know how to evaluate the measurement of course.

One thing I would think about is how easy or hard the R&R is for the engine/trans. If it's easy, put the used unit in and try it out. If it's hard, check things out before you do all that work.

If I bought an assembled engine and trans, I would be real tempted to pull them apart and put a new clutch, throwout bearing in. Way easy with them out of the car.
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Old 06-29-2013, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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True...just I don't really have the time or tools to build an engine. I'm in Missouri, 60 miles east of Kansas City.



Only if it doesn't involve hacking up the trans tunnel.

I am 6 miles west of Six Flags Over Mid America. About 3 or so hours from you.
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