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Old 01-22-2014, 10:00 AM
 
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London's wealthiest streets -with houses hitting 20 million plus are full of Range Rovers
Since Day 1 Range Rovers have generally been very unreliable - how they managed to sustain sales to some of the nation's wealthiest and demanding citizens for 40 years is some achievement.
JLR sales are small beer compared to Germans
Conspicuous consumption can drive a lot of folk into all kinds of purchases ... like cars that are beautiful to look at, sumptuously appointed, but "very unreliable".

I seriously doubt that the London fleet of Range Rovers ever sees a demand upon their off-road capabilities. No more than all the Ferrari's and Lambo's and other exotics that routinely show up in the street behind Harrods get challenged for their capabilities on the streets in the area, let alone the highway road system of the region.
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Old 02-16-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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Conspicuous consumption can drive a lot of folk into all kinds of purchases ... like cars that are beautiful to look at, sumptuously appointed, but "very unreliable".

I seriously doubt that the London fleet of Range Rovers ever sees a demand upon their off-road capabilities. No more than all the Ferrari's and Lambo's and other exotics that routinely show up in the street behind Harrods get challenged for their capabilities on the streets in the area, let alone the highway road system of the region.

They call it Conspicuous consumption - i tend to call it Natural consumption - rich person buys expensive car.
Although there are London millionaires who have a "Conservative Conspicuous consumption" -there's a hardcore element who buy a Lexus RX450h (yes it is a 50k car ) -i think these are the ones who have had Volvos and VW Golfs in the past.
London 4x4s are known as Chelsea Tractors and are popular with school run mums
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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If you like them then buy one. Life is too short to settle if you have the funds. If you are the type who trades in cars as soon as the warranty expires then it doesn't really matter.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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If you like them then buy one. Life is too short to settle if you have the funds. If you are the type who trades in cars as soon as the warranty expires then it doesn't really matter.
I couldn't agree more! I have a Land Rover 3. It went out of warranty at 75K miles. At 77K miles, the engine died. No "check engine" light, no "low oil" light, no warning of any kind, just a horrible noise--and failure to move. It will cost $11K to get a new engine, and the parts could take more than 2 months to obtain. Yes, yes, yes, if you have one of these monsters, trade it in BEFORE the warranty runs out. I must say, it was an absolute joy to drive up to that point, though!
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No, I'm not wrong. My post specifically referred to people who could afford and *would actually buy* a 100k+ car. Buyers in that price range don't care about depreciation because all cars in that price range have terribly steep depreciation curves.

Many of us (including myself) could theoretically shell out 100k on a car, but wouldn't do it because we have better things to do with our assets.
I am a buyer in that price range. So are many of my neighbors and friends. Of course we care.
Wtf?
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You must have some interesting friends. So how many of these friends own Jags? Just curious because not only do I not have any friends who own one, I rarely see many on the road in a major metropolitan area of several million inhabitants.
Come to Dallas.

There are TONS of jags. TONS. Dallas is also a car town, so you will see all kinds of high end stuff all over the place.

My business partners also have nice cars and my partner's husband just got rid of his Jag and got an Audi A8 instead bc he was tired of all the nonsense.

So I don't know about interesting, but just because you don't know someone or something doesn't mean it doesn't happen or exist.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Seal Rock
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This may be of interest: Most Improved Brands in the J.D. Power 2014 Vehicle Dependability Study | J.D. Power

The JD Power studies are based on 3 year old cars, so the latest ones look at 2011 models. Considering a sizeable proportion of Jaguars on sale now are new models (XF launched in 2012, F-Type this year), and the factory was extensively re-tooled, things are likely to get better.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Seal Rock
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No, I'm not wrong. My post specifically referred to people who could afford and *would actually buy* a 100k+ car. Buyers in that price range don't care about depreciation because all cars in that price range have terribly steep depreciation curves.
Some do, but not all. Have a look at Porsche 911 GT3 prices for a new model and a 2011 one. If I was in the market (and yes, I could afford it), that would be a major factor for me over the F-Type which my heart would want.
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