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Old 08-28-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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I never use my hand brake on a hill, and I travel in San Francisco often. We got hills. BUT -- what I do is, when someone is rolling up behind me, I let my foot off the brake and roll back to let him know I am driving a stick. If the driver behind me is smart, he won't get right up on my bumper. I don't really roll back l when I start, but having that wiggle room makes me breath easier.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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Out of the 6 manuals I've owned, 1 had a clutch with no point between engaged or not engaged. I've driven some earlier WRXs that had a similar clutch from the factory. It's more common on AWD cars because there isn't much 'give' in the drive train between the 4 driven wheels and the LSDs balancing power. You generally won't have this problem on a honda civic.

As for the "rolling back a couple of inches" - well, that's great if you have a couple of inches to roll back, but I was talking about situations where you don't have that luxury, like tight parallel parking spots on steep hills, where you might have a grand total of 18" of space front and back combined. At any point you might only be 3" from scraping a bumper.
Awd and LSD have nothing to do with a clutch engagement point. As far as racier clutches being a bear in the street all it is is a narrower window of engagement. I understand 99% of American drivers have no clue what finesse is, but a truely decent driver has no problem figuring out the engagement point and how narrow that window is and using it properly. Ive never had an issue with any clutch on the street whether it was a stock wrx or a highly modded one, or any other car, even with over 1000hp at the wheels. Just takes a lil bit of knowledge and technique.

A true racing clutch which is about half the diameter of an economy car's and many times not actuated with a pedal is a whole nother animal whether its a mutiplate design or not.
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Old 08-28-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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I never use my hand brake on a hill, and I travel in San Francisco often. We got hills. BUT -- what I do is, when someone is rolling up behind me, I let my foot off the brake and roll back to let him know I am driving a stick. If the driver behind me is smart, he won't get right up on my bumper. I don't really roll back l when I start, but having that wiggle room makes me breath easier.
Good practice. I once had a girlfriend who lived in Alameda, though, and once while riding with her she smoked her clutch because somebody on a hill in SF stopped right on her bumper.
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Old 08-28-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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I have driven manuals in hills. Towing, etc.

I have no problem juggling 3 pedals and can take off on a hill without rolling back. Absolutely cannot figure out the parking brake trick.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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Awd and LSD have nothing to do with a clutch engagement point. As far as racier clutches being a bear in the street all it is is a narrower window of engagement. I understand 99% of American drivers have no clue what finesse is, but a truely decent driver has no problem figuring out the engagement point and how narrow that window is and using it properly. Ive never had an issue with any clutch on the street whether it was a stock wrx or a highly modded one, or any other car, even with over 1000hp at the wheels. Just takes a lil bit of knowledge and technique.

A true racing clutch which is about half the diameter of an economy car's and many times not actuated with a pedal is a whole nother animal whether its a mutiplate design or not.
Where did I say it did?
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Good practice. I once had a girlfriend who lived in Alameda, though, and once while riding with her she smoked her clutch because somebody on a hill in SF stopped right on her bumper.
Perfect. In that situation, you just roll back until you're resting against that vehicle, using them as a wheel chock, and take off.
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Old 08-29-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Perfect. In that situation, you just roll back until you're resting against that vehicle, using them as a wheel chock, and take off.
^ Wish I could rep you again.
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Old 09-07-2014, 03:01 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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