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quite a few times ive seen traffic close together around here in order to make someone who thought theyd shoot on down to the end of the line and try to jump in have to sit there and wait for a good while. They sit there all mad as hell and everyone just shrugs as if to say "shouldve stayed line like everyone else".
pythonis ] Rule #1: The speed limit sign trumps all laws
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Originally Posted by Slowpoke_TX
it doesn't.
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Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady
Actually, it does, in a way. All the other traffic laws are assumed to take the speed limit law into consideration, which is to say, for example, that, legally, not in "get the hell out of my way" land, slower traffic is any traffic going below the speed limit, by definition, because NO traffic should be going faster than the speed limit, wishful thinking that the law doesn't apply to you notwithstanding.
It's crazy to say that the speed limit 'trumps all laws.' A friend was driving with his wife on an elevated roadway in the right lane when a semi truck in the left lane next to them decided it was time to get over to the right. Probably the semi did not see them, since it was a dark rainy night here in Seattle. My friend stomped on the accelerator and was able to get ahead of the semi, most certainly breaking the speed limit in the process. Should he have gone through the guardrail since the speed limit trumps all?
Avoidance of accidents trumps all IMO, and there are times when exceeding the speed limit can help to avoid an accident. Granted those times are few in number.
The greatest hazard on the road is not the person doing 65-70 in the left lane in a 60. The greatest hazard is the person doing 57-59 in the left lane in a 60, because such a person has people continually coming up from behind and weaving around them.
Legally speaking, I doubt that the speed limit trumps other laws. Common-sense-wise, the avoidance of accidents trumps.
It's crazy to say that the speed limit 'trumps all laws.' A friend was driving with his wife on an elevated roadway in the right lane when a semi truck in the left lane next to them decided it was time to get over to the right. Probably the semi did not see them, since it was a dark rainy night here in Seattle. My friend stomped on the accelerator and was able to get ahead of the semi, most certainly breaking the speed limit in the process. Should he have gone through the guardrail since the speed limit trumps all?
Avoidance of accidents trumps all IMO, and there are times when exceeding the speed limit can help to avoid an accident. Granted those times are few in number.
The greatest hazard on the road is not the person doing 65-70 in the left lane in a 60. The greatest hazard is the person doing 57-59 in the left lane in a 60, because such a person has people continually coming up from behind and weaving around them.
Legally speaking, I doubt that the speed limit trumps other laws. Common-sense-wise, the avoidance of accidents trumps.
He had the option to hit the brakes rather than the gas resulting in him and his family still being safe and not having broken the speed limit.
If people drove the speed limit and those behind them that for whatever reason couldnt do the speed limit simply sucked it up then there wouldnt be any problems. Its all those who scream "its my right! you cant tell me! theres a code!" that causes problems because if it was never even a thought in someones brain ("wow, it never even occurred to me that i could drive above the speed limit") then i dont see how thered ever be any problems.
One thing ive noticed is that everyone accelerates differently. I see some people who stomp on the gas to try to go 0-55 (thats the speed limit here) in 3 seconds while others take a good 1/2 mile or more to get to it.
As far as me saying the speed limit trumps all laws, by that i mean that you can pull out all sorts of codes and such saying "well, texas traffic code blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda says that if im wearing a yellow shirt on a sunday and the guy in the right lane has a dog in the car i can pass him at whatever speed i want" because itll always come back "yes, but what was the speed limit? did you break the speed limit? then youre guilty of speeding"
Yes, yes, we know that you and all the other "careful aggressive drivers" have superhuman driving ability and the normal rules don't apply to you.
That said, a more sensible and responsible driver realizes that putting yourself into situations where you need to do split-second maneuvers to make your exit or save some time also puts you at the mercy of some bonehead mistake by someone who lacks your superhuman driving ability, and puts those mere mortals at risk of not reacting in time to your mindboggling skills.
It's no thrill ride. It's a carefully calibrated driving experience.
I wouldn't try to jump ahead at the last moment unless I had a clear, large and viable window to put my vehicle in and do it with safe road conditions and with good visibility.
With this approach it doesn't matter who the doofus mc goofus is behind me or in front of me or whatever.
It's not for everyone as most people have the reflexes and coordination of a sloth. Heck, I won't be trying these things when I am 65 and the neck is stiff or hands are shaky.
BUT, at that point, I won't be acting a Scrooge when someone is trying to enter a gap or purposely not letting them in like some people on these boards.
No, actually it doesn't, because compliance with all provisions of law is the standard. Any attorney, peace officer, or judge will tell you that the speed limit does not take precedence over any other provision of Texas Transportation Code.
If "slower traffic is any traffic going below the speed limit," then by your own reasoning, all traffic going below the speed limit should keep right.
Yes, absolutely. If you are going below the speed limit you are by definition slower traffic and should keep right. If you're going the speed limit, you are by definition NOT slower traffic.
This, of course, assuming that it's not rush hour traffic and all lanes are full to the brim and ALL traffic is going slower than the speed limit due to traffic or weather conditions. That's accounted for in the statutes, too, fancy that.
if you're going the speed limit, you are by definition NOT slower traffic.
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I disagree. If you're going 55 and everyone else in the left lane is going 70, you are slower traffic.
This is a good point, you are slower by actual definition and not by some artificially devised definition of 'slower.'
A few weeks ago I was headed to work at 4:30 AM, and slightly behind schedule. There was little traffic, and I was doing probably 73-75 in a 60, in the left lane. However I saw head lights coming up from behind, so I hit my blinker and moved to the right, slowing down to maybe 70 as I did so. The guy passed me without having to skip a beat--it was a Washington state trooper. I bet he decided not to pull me over or give me a ticket just because he appreciated my exercise of lane discipline.
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