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Old 03-16-2014, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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A new report just out that they now know the airline flew as low as 1500 ft at two different points to avoid detection. Anyone still think this wasn't a deliberate act?
Harrier hasn't seen this report - though he has no doubt that it was a deliberate act.

Could you post the report, or cite where you read or heard about it?
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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A new report just out that they now know the airline flew as low as 1500 ft at two different points to avoid detection. Anyone still think this wasn't a deliberate act?
I think at this point, the bigger question isn't whether or not it was a deliberate act, but whose deliberate act? I am still not sold on the pilot wanting to commit suicide.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:14 PM
 
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. Most importantly, the information on this airliner was too late getting in.
Yeah, the flight is currently late in arriving to Beijing.

At least that is what FlightAware.com reports.

Malaysian Airlines System (MH) #370
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: NW AR
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Harrier hasn't seen this report - though he has no doubt that it was a deliberate act.

Could you post the report, or cite where you read or heard about it?
MH370 flew as low as 1,500m to avoid detection, says paper - MSN Malaysia News

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Yeah, the flight is currently late in arriving to Beijing.
Really?
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Hmmm...

FlightAware.com is rather accurate about MH370, but not so much concerning United Flight 93.

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Newark Liberty Intl (KEWR)

San Francisco Intl (KSFO)

08:43AM EDT
11:17AM PDT

Duration: 5 hours 34 minutes
Tuesday, September 11, 2001
StatusLanded 12 years ago. (track log & graph)
United (UA) #93

It did "land", kind of.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:25 PM
 
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Hmmm...

FlightAware.com is rather accurate about MH370, but not so much concerning United Flight 93.



United (UA) #93

It did "land", kind of.
Are you being purposefully sarcastic, or are you skeptical about UA 93's whereabouts?
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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My question is, would a pilot with extensive training (even spending additional, countless hours on a simulator) really know how to avoid detection between different airspaces in order for no one to be able to detect the plane he was flying? Would it be more possible to do if the plane was being flown remotely?
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Thanks.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Are you being purposefully sarcastic, or are you skeptical about UA 93's whereabouts?
Neither.

Harrier is simply noting that FlightAware.com seems to think that Flight 93 landed 12 years ago.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:34 PM
 
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My question is, would a pilot with extensive training (even spending additional, countless hours on a simulator) really know how to avoid detection between different airspaces in order for no one to be able to detect the plane he was flying? Would it be more possible to do if the plane was being flown remotely?
A commercial airliner cannot be flown remotely without some very extensive retrofits. It is possible, but someone would likely notice. The technology does exist.

As to your fist question: I have no idea. A simulator doesn't show radar installations of any sort. Avoiding multiple radar sites would require very intimate knowledge of the areas in question.
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