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Old 08-06-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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1) Looks more like 20-25 lbs. to me.

2) And if so, will it help his game?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-...lkA1ZJUDQ1OF8x
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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1) Looks more like 20-25 lbs. to me.

2) And if so, will it help his game?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-...lkA1ZJUDQ1OF8x
Won't help his game so much given he's already so good but it should help with the wear and tear of the seasons and getting older.

Most guys you see getting a boost from dropping the weight weren't in top shape before. (aka Shaq when he left the Lakers and dropped a bunch of weight heading into Miami....plus others)
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Interesting move by LBJ. Marathon runners tend to avoid bulking up the upper body because you have to carry that extra muscle mass 26.2 miles. Most great marathon runners are in the 110-130 lb. range.

Basketball is less of an endurance game than marathon running, but still endurance does matter in basketball. Plus, less mass=more vertical.

I like the fact that LBJ seems to come up with something every off-season to try to improve his game. Magic Johnson was like that. Every summer he would focus on a particular area, and come back a better player.
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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Won't help his game so much given he's already so good but it should help with the wear and tear of the seasons and getting older.

Most guys you see getting a boost from dropping the weight weren't in top shape before. (aka Shaq when he left the Lakers and dropped a bunch of weight heading into Miami....plus others)
I get your 1st point about wear and tear; just wondering if weight loss will affect the strength portion of his game. i.e., overpowering lighter defenders. Lebron didn't look like he had excess baggage even at 265.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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I get your 1st point about wear and tear; just wondering if weight loss will affect the strength portion of his game. i.e., overpowering lighter defenders. Lebron didn't look like he had excess baggage even at 265.
I'm no expert but my guess is that he was having a little bit of trouble getting past a guy like Kawhi and felt that a little more speed would serve him better. He has more than enough strength and size.

So, I guess saying that out loud it's possible that he might be a little quicker to get past guys, maybe it will help with his defensive energy?

It's possible but lets face it, he's already playing lights out basketball there really isn't much "better" he can get.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Interesting move by LBJ. Marathon runners tend to avoid bulking up the upper body because you have to carry that extra muscle mass 26.2 miles. Most great marathon runners are in the 110-130 lb. range.

Basketball is less of an endurance game than marathon running, but still endurance does matter in basketball. Plus, less mass=more vertical.

I like the fact that LBJ seems to come up with something every off-season to try to improve his game. Magic Johnson was like that. Every summer he would focus on a particular area, and come back a better player.
heh, I was in Chicago watching the marathon a few years back when the guy broke the course record by 1 second. Huge bonus payday and he knew it.

The guy ran something like a 4:30-4:40 mile his last mile.
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Old 08-06-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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I think it has more to do with having Love come in and Lebron playing the smaller guys.
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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heh, I was in Chicago watching the marathon a few years back when the guy broke the course record by 1 second. Huge bonus payday and he knew it.

The guy ran something like a 4:30-4:40 mile his last mile.
Current course record holder is Dennis Kimetto of Kenya 2:03:45 (translates to 4 min 43 sec. per mile pace over 26.2 miles). He is listed as 5'6" 135 lbs. After he won the Chicago marathon he explained through his Swahili interpreter that he had been a farmer growing maize and tending a few cows until 4 years prior, when a chance encounter with Emanuel Mutai, a big time Kenyan runner and leader of a training group, got him involved in running.
Kenya's Dennis Kimetto wins Chicago Marathon, sets record - ESPN Chicago

Getting back to LBJ, I wonder if the leg cramp issue made him decide to change his body. Basketball is not a pure endurance sport but still you are running for 48 minutes, albeit with a few breaks. A 10K runner (WR=26 minutes) or half marathon runner (WR=58 minutes) would never bulk up the way LBJ has done over the past several years.

At one time NBA players did not do much upper body work. I remember hearing an interview of Kareem Abdul Jabbar when he noted (paraphrase) 'bulk is in.' Perhaps LBJ is now telling us that bulk is out.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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I think it has more to do with having Love come in and Lebron playing the smaller guys.
Lebron has been playing vs. SF's the entire time with only minor exceptions. Chris Bosh was on the 4's.

Love isn't moving Lebron off the PF's IMO.

I think his first step is just slightly slowing and the weight will allow him to regain that edge and not leg young 22yos play up on him as much.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:18 PM
 
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Current course record holder is Dennis Kimetto of Kenya 2:03:45 (translates to 4 min 43 sec. per mile pace over 26.2 miles). He is listed as 5'6" 135 lbs. After he won the Chicago marathon he explained through his Swahili interpreter that he had been a farmer growing maize and tending a few cows until 4 years prior, when a chance encounter with Emanuel Mutai, a big time Kenyan runner and leader of a training group, got him involved in running.
Kenya's Dennis Kimetto wins Chicago Marathon, sets record - ESPN Chicago

Getting back to LBJ, I wonder if the leg cramp issue made him decide to change his body. Basketball is not a pure endurance sport but still you are running for 48 minutes, albeit with a few breaks. A 10K runner (WR=26 minutes) or half marathon runner (WR=58 minutes) would never bulk up the way LBJ has done over the past several years.

At one time NBA players did not do much upper body work. I remember hearing an interview of Kareem Abdul Jabbar when he noted (paraphrase) 'bulk is in.' Perhaps LBJ is now telling us that bulk is out.
Bulk has been "out" since the league banned hand checking.

That's why Nash suddenly went from good to MVP.

However, Lebron has been feasting in the current environment for years.

Logically, Lebron is reacting to something that he didn't like from last year. Adjustments aren't made after success but rather failure. I think he's lightening up to drive past the Kwahi's, Durant's etc. as he gets a tad bit older.

Otherwise he'd have dropped the weight LAST year.....nope, he's reacting to the finals.
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