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Old 01-19-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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In light of yesterday's loss of the Amazon bid. It seems that Birmingham is content on only being known for its food scene and civil rights history. Our civil rights history has become more of a negative for most people it's seems than a positive. That era is used against us by other cities even though it doesn't represent what Birmingham is in 2018. It's like reminding someone how much they used to drink even though they haven't had a drink in almost 60 years. How many years, decades, generations must past before this city can finally break its ties to that dark period in history?

Our food scene, while awesome and is nationally recognized, doesn't do much when it comes to creating the high paying jobs this area desperately needs. Sure it's cool to have the variety of options we have for a city our size but what good is it when a significant portion of the population can't even afford to walk in the door, much less enjoy a meal?

Can Birmingham be known as a tech hub, or a media production hub, a major transportation hub? etc?

 
Old 01-19-2018, 12:50 PM
_OT
 
Location: Miami
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Hills, Steel/Iron and etc. but for the most part I think we can consider that as having a culture and identity. To answer the question...

But I think Birmingham should stay proud about its Civil Rights History, because it’s just that...History. If we don’t keep our history alive, who will? The people who think it’s a negative are close minded, those are the kind of individuals who freeze up or get uncomfortable when a discussion about race gets brought up.

Birmingham will never be a “Tech Hub,” “Media Hub,” or “Transportation Hub.” But when it comes to anything related to this, if anything, I see Birmingham as diversifying its Job market more and more. That’s where Birmingham will shine imo...
 
Old 01-19-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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B'ham is also known for it's sports medicine too via UAB. But that's more of a bullet point when compared to civil rights and what not.


Given what Raleigh has become in the past 5 years for tech, I'd never say never about B'ham. You just never know.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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Hills, Steel/Iron and etc. but for the most part I think we can consider that as having a culture and identity. To answer the question...

But I think Birmingham should stay proud about its Civil Rights History, because it’s just that...History. If we don’t keep our history alive, who will? The people who think it’s a negative are close minded, those are the kind of individuals who freeze up or get uncomfortable when a discussion about race gets brought up.

Birmingham will never be a “Tech Hub,” “Media Hub,” or “Transportation Hub.” But when it comes to anything related to this, if anything, I see Birmingham as diversifying its Job market more and more. That’s where Birmingham will shine imo...
I say it's a becoming a negative because cities probably use it against us when it comes to competing for economic development and a lot people from other parts of the region and country use it against us in a negative way as well when making comparisons between this city and Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Jacksonville, etc. This is coming from a 30 something black gay male who has lived here most of my life.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Ayy Tee Ell by way of MS, TN, AL and FL
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In light of yesterday's loss of the Amazon bid. It seems that Birmingham is content on only being known for its food scene and civil rights history. Our civil rights history has become more of a negative for most people it's seems than a positive. That era is used against us by other cities even though it doesn't represent what Birmingham is in 2018. It's like reminding someone how much they used to drink even though they haven't had a drink in almost 60 years. How many years, decades, generations must past before this city can finally break its ties to that dark period in history?

Our food scene, while awesome and is nationally recognized, doesn't do much when it comes to creating the high paying jobs this area desperately needs. Sure it's cool to have the variety of options we have for a city our size but what good is it when a significant portion of the population can't even afford to walk in the door, much less enjoy a meal?

Can Birmingham be known as a tech hub, or a media production hub, a major transportation hub? etc?
Birmingham is a financial hub at this point of its history. A ton of banking talent around here. At minimum, it's the financial center of the state of Alabama. Healthcare too. But how far outside of this state does that reach?

Food and recreation/tourism (which includes civil rights)? Those are good for any place, and yes, Birmingham has plenty of that. But let's just say Alabama isn't Florida, which is an example of an economy based on tourism. Yeah Alabama has the beaches but they aren't comparable to Florida or California.

After that, not really sure what Birmingham is. Huntsville is the tech center of Alabama, that is not changing. Montgomery is the government.

Atlanta is the major transportation hub, 2 hours away.

With Alabama, you really have to look at things in a statewide perspective. You have the automotive manufacturing industry coming alive as a whole, then Airbus in Mobile.

You have to look at what is drawing people in from outside, rather than what going on within the state/city limit lines. There will always be SOME business. At this point, for Birmingham, it's banking and simply because it is a big metro area.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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In light of yesterday's loss of the Amazon bid. It seems that Birmingham is content on only being known for its food scene and civil rights history. Our civil rights history has become more of a negative for most people it's seems than a positive. That era is used against us by other cities even though it doesn't represent what Birmingham is in 2018. It's like reminding someone how much they used to drink even though they haven't had a drink in almost 60 years. How many years, decades, generations must past before this city can finally break its ties to that dark period in history?

Our food scene, while awesome and is nationally recognized, doesn't do much when it comes to creating the high paying jobs this area desperately needs. Sure it's cool to have the variety of options we have for a city our size but what good is it when a significant portion of the population can't even afford to walk in the door, much less enjoy a meal?

Can Birmingham be known as a tech hub, or a media production hub, a major transportation hub? etc?
If the civil rights history is embraced, I don't see what's not to love about civil rights and food.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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If the civil rights history is embraced, I don't see what's not to love about civil rights and food.
Neither one brings the jobs that are desperately needed here, nor does it lower the poverty rate in the city. Birmingham is like the doughnut hole in the fastest growing region in the country, no growth in any category this decade. Furthermore this is the only metro with over a million that still gets labeled as the "old south" by many.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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Birmingham is a financial hub at this point of its history. A ton of banking talent around here. At minimum, it's the financial center of the state of Alabama. Healthcare too. But how far outside of this state does that reach?

Food and recreation/tourism (which includes civil rights)? Those are good for any place, and yes, Birmingham has plenty of that. But let's just say Alabama isn't Florida, which is an example of an economy based on tourism. Yeah Alabama has the beaches but they aren't comparable to Florida or California.

After that, not really sure what Birmingham is. Huntsville is the tech center of Alabama, that is not changing. Montgomery is the government.

Atlanta is the major transportation hub, 2 hours away.

With Alabama, you really have to look at things in a statewide perspective. You have the automotive manufacturing industry coming alive as a whole, then Airbus in Mobile.

You have to look at what is drawing people in from outside, rather than what going on within the state/city limit lines. There will always be SOME business. At this point, for Birmingham, it's banking and simply because it is a big metro area.
Charlotte is the banking hub of the South. Healthcare? Maybe, but again Atlanta and the usual suspects can match or surpass what we have here.

I guess at this point Birmingham is the Detroit of the South. Maybe we can be a historic preservation hub😒😒😔.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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B'ham is also known for it's sports medicine too via UAB. But that's more of a bullet point when compared to civil rights and what not.


Given what Raleigh has become in the past 5 years for tech, I'd never say never about B'ham. You just never know.
Right,never say never. I think the Birmingham region has more going for it than what you guys are giving it credit for.
 
Old 01-19-2018, 03:41 PM
 
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