Crime stats battle of North Lake vs South Park (Charlotte: how much, storage)

[SunnyKayak]

I decided to look on CMPD crime map search of incidents within. 05 miles of both mall address for North Lake & South Park.
The search is base on one year, between 1/6/2011 and 2/5/2012.

Due to Carolina Place and Concord Mills data is not available to search this search is for the two malls the info is available at http://maps.cmpdweb.org/cmpdnet/quickSearch.aspx (broken link)

Red = the mall with higher number, Green = the mall with lower number

Larceny-Shoplifting .......... South Park 251 North Lake 341
Larceny-Other .................South Park 73 North Lake 59
Larceny from Auto ............South Park 63 North Lake 94
Fraud ............................ South Park 56 North Lake 51
Hit and Run .....................South Park 56 North Lake 38
Other Non-criminal Incident .South Park 29 North Lake 21
Non-aggravated Assault .....South Park 25 North Lake 27
Other Criminal Charge ........South Park 24 North Lake 17
Vandalism .......................South Park 23 North Lake 22
Embezzlement ..................South Park 18 North Lake 20
Auto Theft ......................South Park 9 North Lake 7
Counterfeiting .................South Park 7 North Lake 3
Forgery .........................South Park 4 North Lake 11
Larceny from Building .......South Park 4 North Lake 3
Missing Person-Age 16 and Over .South Park 4 North Lake 2
Trespass ..........................South Park 4 North Lake 6
Armed Robbery .................South Park 3 North Lake 2
Commercial Burglary ...........South Park 3 North Lake 6
Missing Person-Under Age ...South Park 163 North Lake 164
Sudden or Accidental Death .South Park 3 North Lake 0
Suicide ............................South Park 3 North Lake 0
Arson ..............................South Park 2 North Lake 0
Larceny of Bicycle .............SouthPark 4 North Lake0
Possession of Dangerous Non-narcotic .South Park 2 North Lake 0
Residential Burglary ............South Park 2 North Lake 1
Sex Offense-Other .............South Park 2 North Lake 1
Aggravated Assault-Other Weapon ......South Park 1 North Lake 1
Larceny-Purse Snatching ...................South Park 1 North Lake 0
Larceny-Pocket Picking ......................Southpark 0 Northlake 5
Mfg./Sale of Dangerous Non-narcotic South Park 1 North Lake 0
Mfg./Sale of Marijuana ...................South Park 1 North Lake 3
Residential Burglary-Storage Bldg .....South Park 1 North Lake 0
Stolen Property ............................South Park 1 North Lake 1
Strong Arm Robbery ......................South Park 1 North Lake 1

I apologize for alignment the forum doesnt allow columns

Out of both malls I find the missing persons numbers alarming.

[GoPhils]

The missing persons is probably parents whose kids wandered off for a couple minutes.

But there's been 3 suicides within 1/2 mile of Southpark?

[swampfoxer]

Interesting info. The worst of the worst offenses seem to gravitate towards Northlake. Although with Southpark's, denser, more urban setting, you'd think it would be worse than it is.

[GoPhils]

What worst offenses? From what I can tell SouthPark is higher on all the "worst" offenses: armed robberies, arson, sex offenses, auto thefts, and hit and runs

But ani's point in the other thread is worth considering as far as looking at these stats in relation to how much traffic each mall gets. Does SouthPark have that much (if any) more traffic than NorthLake?

[28173]

This statistic only has some comparison meaning when considered together with the population/traffic number for same covered area.

[Feltdesigner]

Originally Posted by swampfoxer

Interesting info. The worst of the worst offenses seem to gravitate towards Northlake. Although with Southpark's, denser, more urban setting, you'd think it would be worse than it is.

is shoplifting the worst of the worst? That seems to be the only stat that pops out in NL's favor.

Everything else is leans to Southpark when it comes to more serious crimes...

IMO it sounds like the appearance of the patrons at NL is turning perception into reality.

[FrankTheTank2]

I am surprised Southpark was that bad. When I shop around there I feel like the poorest person in Charlotte.

[InSouthPark]

SP is one of the largest business districts in the state. Like 28173 said, there is no comparing apples to apples as the two areas don't come close in comparison, especially 1/2 mile out.

[swampfoxer]

Originally Posted by GoPhils

What worst offenses? From what I can tell SouthPark is higher on all the "worst" offenses: armed robberies, arson, sex offenses, auto thefts, and hit and runs

But ani's point in the other thread is worth considering as far as looking at these stats in relation to how much traffic each mall gets. Does SouthPark have that much (if any) more traffic than NorthLake?

Well it depends on how you look at it. The two stats below show a pretty wide difference in SP favor.
Larceny-Shoplifting .......... South Park 251 North Lake 341
Larceny from Auto ............South Park 63 North Lake 94
Larceny-Pocket Picking ......Southpark 0 Northlake 5

Whereas, these stats are too close in similarity to even make a case, imo.
Armed Robbery ...............South Park 3 North Lake 2
Auto Theft ......................South Park 9 North Lake 7
Other Criminal Charge ......South Park 24 North Lake 17

The bottom line is this. Thugs are opportunists. They go where the people go and where the money it. You just have to be careful wherever you go, more in some places, less in others. I know Sunny tends to favor NL and feels it gets a bad rap compared to SP otherwise he wouldn't have listed these stats to try and prove otherwise.

[LLN]

If not on a per capita basis, these numbers are worthless. Could present an accurate picture, or could be absolutely misleading. Reader beware.