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There are two couples who both have newborns who are very sick. Both couples are Christian, they go to church, are hard working honest, and all that good stuff. Both couples have friends and family praying for the babies to get better. Both babies get the same excellent medical care. One of the babies survives and everyone is happy and is thanking God for answering all their prayers. The other baby dies. How can God let that happen?
Many things can block God from answering prayer ,............ like calling on sickness and lack by worry and failing to have expectation in the faith of God ......failing to take up the authority of believers by the blood of Jesus to remove any curses which come from the dark spirit or man .......failing to have a righteous seed for a point of contact to Jesus .... Jesus may not have the right anointing to heal the specific sickness which God give His believers this anointing of His spirit..........There may be other causes which block God which only God may know ......Still when there was prayer on the child then God took the child and the child belongs to Jesus now , as Jesus has got the baby
There are two couples who both have newborns who are very sick. Both couples are Christian, they go to church, are hard working honest, and all that good stuff. Both couples have friends and family praying for the babies to get better. Both babies get the same excellent medical care. One of the babies survives and everyone is happy and is thanking God for answering all their prayers. The other baby dies. How can God let that happen?
There are two couples who both have newborns who are very sick. Both couples are atheists, they do good works, are hard working, honest, and all that good stuff. Both couples have friends and family hoping for the babies to get better. Both babies get the same excellent medical care. One of the babies survives and everyone is happy and is thanking the doctors. The other baby dies. It happens.
There are two couples who both have newborns who are very sick. Both couples are Christian, they go to church, are hard working honest, and all that good stuff. Both couples have friends and family praying for the babies to get better. Both babies get the same excellent medical care. One of the babies survives and everyone is happy and is thanking God for answering all their prayers. The other baby dies. How can God let that happen?
First of all the reader must understand that there is a certain spiritual and illogical illegitimacy with regard to discussing hypothetical situations like this. They are unreal, not immediate and only serve to stimulate the emotions - not faith OR reason. Generally they are utilized as an attack upon faith instead of as a bulwark to it. A case in point is the aggressive tone of the leading post in this thread. It does not support faith, but presumes to attack it.
That being said, my rebuttal follows;
It should first be understood that God does not 'allow' anything to happen. He COMMANDS it.
Divine command is either by direct intervention (this sort of thing is called a miracle), indirectly (by a Word of command, direction or implication that requires obedience and action by a human) or by passive non-interference (let the chips fall where they may). There are obviously other methods and mechanics, but for the sake of this hypothetical argument these will suffice.
This hypothetical proposes that man, by man's acts or lack of action can directly affect the action of God. Nothing is further from the truth. Heaven is not a democracy!
NOTHING BLOCKS GOD'S ACTIONS.
God may respond according to human action or lack of it in a specific instance, but God does not and cannot be stopped from executing His righteous actions or intentions. At this point some clever reader may quote a passage of scripture from the Bible and extend the debate in another direction, but generally speaking God can't be stopped or blocked by any action of man, demon or angel from heaven or hell or earth. To assume that any act of man can 'block' an act of God is nothing more than perverted conceit.
THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN LIVING AND MORE TO DEATH THAN DYING.
The general direction of the hypothetical post does not consider God's design upon the spirit and life of the dead baby, it's family and the friends involved in the tragedy. God ALWAYS has a positive and remarkable purpose in such things, which are almost immediately obvious to the faithful. For those who hate God, there is never an adequate answer - and that's just the way they like it. In the end, as always, each man gets from God exactly what he wants - whether it is beneficial to the man is another issue altogether.
Choose wisely, pilgrim. Your eternal future depends upon it.
and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
In the end, as always, each man gets from God exactly what he wants - whether it is beneficial to the man is another issue altogether.
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What does that mean? That man always gets what he wants. There have been many times that I did not get what I wanted/got what I did not want.
By the way, this is actually something that happened recently. I know a couple who are very religious. They are always talking about how good God is and saying how thankful they are to him for all they have. They had a baby who was very sick. I never met the other couple but saw their facebook where they posted about their sick child. The couples met each other at the hospital and gave each other support.
"The Lord is near to everyone who calls upon Him, who calls upon Him in truth."
"The Lord hears the prayer of the just but He is far from the wicked."
Things like this are what turns me off from this religion. So someone who does not get their prayer answered is supposed to think maybe they are wicked? That somehow they are not good enough?
It is similar to people who are convinced in the law of attraction. I am not saying that being positive does not have rewards, but to always think this way can make the person who has something bad happen to them believe there is something wrong with them. It's a good way to make people feel bad about themselves I guess.
Things like this are what turns me off from this religion. So someone who does not get their prayer answered is supposed to think maybe they are wicked? That somehow they are not good enough?
That is not Christian or Christ-centered thinking . . . it stems from delusions.
There are two couples who both have newborns who are very sick. Both couples are Christian, they go to church, are hard working honest, and all that good stuff. Both couples have friends and family praying for the babies to get better. Both babies get the same excellent medical care. One of the babies survives and everyone is happy and is thanking God for answering all their prayers. The other baby dies. How can God let that happen?
Yes, ' let ' or ' allow ' but Not caused by God to happen.
King Solomon, known for his God-given wisdom [ 1st Kings 3 vs 16-38 ], wrote at Ecclesiastes 9 v 11 that the swift do not always win the ace, nor do the mighty win the battle, nor to the wise always have the food, nor do the intelligent always have the riches, nor do those with knowledge always have success, [ why ] because time and unexpected events overtake them all. So, unforeseen occurrences befall us all [ see what happened at Luke 13 vs 4,5 ]
Remember: In Eden Adam rejected God as Ruler when Adam broke God's law. Thus, Adam set up People Rule as superior to God Rule. Adam by breaking God's law was in effect saying mankind can govern mankind better than God can.
So, earth's woes [ Rev. 12 vs 9,12 ] are do to demonic influence, and man dominating man to man's harm or injury - Ecclesiastes 8 v 11.
Soon Christ's 1000-year kingdom reign over earth will be here, and at that future time as Isaiah 33 v 24 wrote that at that time " No one will say, "I am sick " .....
The healings, curings and resurrections which Jesus performed while living on earth was a small preview of what Jesus will be doing on a GRAND global scale during his millennium-long day of reigning over earth. Those not called to heaven will have a healthy physical resurrection back to life on earth. All nations of earth will be blessed with good health - Rev. 22 v 2.
Jesus will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham as recorded at Genesis 12 v 3; 22 v 18
Maybe He doesn't hear either family.
"The Lord is near to everyone who calls upon Him, who calls upon Him in truth."
"The Lord hears the prayer of the just but He is far from the wicked."
Didn't first-century Christians loose loved ones in death? _______ Were they wicked !
What did Jesus say about those killed at the tower at Siloam at Luke 13 vs 4,5 ?___________
Didn't Jesus resurrect some dead children?______ Surely the rest were Not all wicked, were they ?
Now is the time for ' spiritual ' healing or curing before the ' physical ' healing and curing starting under Jesus' coming 1000-year kingdom reign over earth when even ' enemy death ' will be no more. - 1st Cor. 15 v 26
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