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Old 06-23-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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Hi Papabear3322, I believe that the first fruits refers to the first who are being saved and that the rest of the harvest follows, which includes all persons in their order. God bless and peace.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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Hi shana Ok Ive noticed your Great with quotes. I'm Thinking of a passage, help me out it refers to the living in christ called up the dead in christ rising and all others raising. Again forgive me I'm paraphrasing . Where / What verse am I thinking of?
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:34 PM
 
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Check out 1 thessalonians 4 15 -17 Whole thing for context I would say could be used to help.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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Thanks, Papabear3322. I understand that these are two groups of persons who are to be made alive, raised to immortality in this passage. I also believe that there is another group when will be made alive when Jesus subjects all to Himself. (1 Cor. 15) There is are the first fruits and then there is the rest of the harvest, which includes the rest of mankind. God bless and peace.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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1 thess 4 15-17
15For this we say unto you by word of the Lord, That we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall dedescend from heaven with a shout, and with a trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


This is also one of the verifications of the anti-christ the next time he comes he wont touch the ground.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:27 AM
 
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"What the Spirit unites, no man can separate."
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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See God created man in Gods image , but Adam never listened to God and failed , so God remove the trees of life from man lest they become corrupt ......... Then Jesus came to take back what was lost by Adam , and God plan for man to be Gods family...... Were through Jesus sacrifices man received righteousness from Jesus and could become born again in the spirit and receive Jesus Spirit and this is the New Creation from God ...... This New Creation comes with Holy Spirit , who is released with from Isaiah 11: 2...`Spirit of the Lord will rest on him , the spirit of wisdom and understanding , the spirit of counsel and might, and the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord ``...... Where all these Spirit are the Holy Spirit who come to believers of Lord Jesus with the New Creation of Christ in their salvation ...... See this New Creation is inbred with a sin less super nature creation .... where the earth is a place were sin is overwhelming , so New Creation believers must keep from sin , or the spirit will be out of peace , But Jesus brings us His grace for victory ....
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