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Old 10-23-2012, 10:06 PM
 
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The reason God appoints Apostles 1st in the Church.

And Prophets then 2nd.

Is that Prophets are not Appointed To
Support an Apostle's Church Ministry, but to Assess it.

Then can God's appointment of Teachers be 3rd.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:45 PM
 
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The reason God appoints Apostles 1st in the Church.

And Prophets then 2nd.

Is that Prophets are not Appointed To
Support an Apostle's Church Ministry, but to Assess it.

Then can God's appointment of Teachers be 3rd.
what are you talking about?
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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God does not Appoint Prophets as personal Cheer-Leaders.

- To His Apostles He give The Plan.
- To His Prophets He gives The Measurements. - Ez.40:1-4
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:30 AM
 
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"Cheer-Leaders"?????

(1 Corinthians 12:27-31) 27*Now YOU are Christ’s body, and members individually. 28*And God has set the respective ones in the congregation, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then powerful works; then gifts of healings; helpful services, abilities to direct, different tongues. 29*Not all are apostles, are they? Not all are prophets, are they? Not all are teachers, are they? Not all perform powerful works, do they? 30*Not all have gifts of healings, do they? Not all speak in tongues, do they? Not all are translators, are they? 31*But keep zealously seeking the greater gifts. And yet I show YOU a surpassing way.

Each one has differing talents and they are used according to the best way.

If you will take a look at the following data from Insight on the Scriptures....
*** it-1 pp. 127-128 Apostle ***
APOSTLE
The Greek word a·po′sto·los is derived from the common verb a·po·stel′lo, meaning simply “send forth (or off).” (Mt 10:5; Mr 11:3) Its basic sense is clearly illustrated in Jesus’ statement: “A slave is not greater than his master, nor is one that is sent forth [a·po′sto·los] greater than the one that sent him.” (Joh 13:16) In this sense the word also applies to Christ Jesus as “the apostle and high priest whom we confess.” (Heb 3:1; compare Mt 10:40; 15:24; Lu 4:18,*43; 9:48; 10:16; Joh 3:17; 5:36,*38; 6:29,*57; 7:29; 8:42; 10:36; 11:42; 17:3, 8, 18, 21-25; 20:21.) Jesus was sent forth by God as his appointed and commissioned representative.
The term is principally applied, however, to those disciples whom Jesus personally selected as a body of 12 appointed representatives. The names of the original 12 selected are given at Matthew 10:2-4; Mark 3:16-19, and Luke 6:13-16. One of the original 12, Judas Iscariot, proved to be a traitor, thereby fulfilling earlier prophecies. (Ps 41:9; 109:8) The remaining 11 faithful apostles are again listed at Acts 1:13.
Some of the apostles had been disciples of John the Baptizer before becoming Jesus’ disciples. (Joh 1:35-42) Eleven of them were evidently Galileans (Ac 2:7), Judas Iscariot being considered the sole Judean. They were from the working class; four were definitely fishermen by trade; one had been a tax collector. (Mt 4:18-21; 9:9-13) At least two of them appear to have been cousins of Jesus (James and John, the sons of Zebedee). They were men who were viewed by the religious leaders as “unlettered and ordinary,” indicating that their education was elementary and not from the schools of higher learning. A number of them, including Peter (Cephas), were married men.—Ac 4:13; 1Co 9:5.
Of the 12, Peter, James, and John seem to have enjoyed the closest relationship with Jesus. They alone witnessed the resurrection of Jairus’ daughter (Mr 5:35-43) and the transfiguration of Jesus (Mt 17:1,*2), and they accompanied him farther into the garden of Gethsemane than the other apostles on the night of his arrest. (Mr 14:32,*33) A special affinity appears to have existed between Jesus and John, and John is accepted as being the one referred to as “the disciple whom Jesus used to love.”—Joh 21:20-24; 13:23.

*** it-2 p. 694 Prophet ***
PROPHET
One through whom divine will and purpose are made known. (Lu 1:70; Ac 3:18-21) Although the etymology of the Hebrew term for a prophet (na·viʼ′) is uncertain, the use of this distinctive term shows that true prophets were no ordinary announcers but were spokesmen for God, ‘men of God’ with inspired messages. (1Ki 12:22; 2Ki 4:9; 23:17) They stood in God’s “intimate group,” and he revealed his “confidential matter” to them.—Jer 23:18; Am 3:7; 1Ki 17:1

The Greek pro·phe′tes literally means “a speaker out [Gr., pro, “before” or “in front of,” and phe·mi′, “say”]” and thus describes a proclaimer, one who makes known messages attributed to a divine source. (Compare Tit 1:12.) Though this includes the thought of a predictor of the future, the fundamental meaning of the word is not that of prediction. (Compare Jg 6:7-10.) Nonetheless, living in harmony with God’s will requires that the individual know what Jehovah’s revealed purposes for the future are so that he may bring his ways, desires, and goals into line with the divine will. Hence, in the great majority of cases, the Biblical prophets did convey messages that were, directly or indirectly, related to the future.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:51 PM
 
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God does not Appoint Prophets as personal Cheer-Leaders.

- To His Apostles He gives The Plan.
- To His Prophets He gives The Measurements. - Ez.40:1-4
Plans & Measurments To What? The Foundation for God's Household:

"...the saints and members of The HouseHold 0f God
having been Built 0n The Foundation 0f The Apostles and Prophets
Jesus Christ Himself being The Chief CornerStone.
In whom the Whole Building Grows Into A Holy Temple In The Lord." - Ephs.2

"...you also as Living Stones Are Being Built Up A Spiritual House
a Holy PriestHood To Offer Up Spiritual Sacrifices Acceptable To God
Through Jesus Christ." - 1Pet.2

Scriptures shows that to God's Prophets
He even gave Measurments to the building of His Heavenly Temple.
Ez.40 - Rev.11:1

For God layed in Zion a tried Stone a Precious Corner Stone for a sure Foundation.
So God makes Justice The Measuring Line and Righteousness The Plummet. - Isaiah 28:17
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:09 AM
 
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The Measuring Line of Justice
is God's 'Line In The Sand' so to speak; not to be crossed.

The Plummet is for The 'Leveling Field' of God's Righteousness.

These are for the Foundation of The Apostles & Prophets for 'The HouseHold 0f God'.
Ephs.2:20
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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God's Apostles & Prophets:

The 12 Apostles sent two Prophets Judas and Silas to be with Paul.

"Judas & Silas being Prophets also exorted the brethern" - Acts 15:32

'Paul chose Silas' - Acts 15:40

The Apostle Paul & the Prophet Silas
spoke The Word 0f The Lord. - Acts 16:32

When The Apostles Paul & The Prophet Silas sang and prayed
the foundation of the prision was shaken. - Acts.16:26

The Apostle Paul & The Prophet Silas
encouraged the brethern. - Acts 16:40

Although Paul Purposed In The Spirit he'd go to Jerusalem;
bound In The Spirit to Jerusalem.
The Holy Spirit testifying in every city
of the chains and tribulations that await him there. - Acts 19:21 - Acts 20:22,23

Some Disciples understanding through the Spirit also; but
tried to persuade Paul not to go to Jerusalem. - Acts 21:4

Even Paul and his companions
staying at the house of Philip The Evangelist with his Prophesying daughters.
Did not Testify by The Spirit as Paul was told of what was waiting for him in Jerusalem.

But that of The Prophet Agabus came to Paul
and Confirmed It To Be So For Paul, by The Holy Spirit. - Acts 21:11

- So Apostles beware, neither the comfort of your fellow Compainions,
nor even more Disciples, or an Evangelist, nor those who Prophesy
will speak by The Holy Spirit to what you know is Purposed In The Spirit like God's Prophet can.

Even after The Prophet Agabus told Paul what he already knew to be true, also?
The others of that place still did not believe it was God's will.
And they still tried to get Paul not to go to Jerusalem! - Acts 21:12

The Household 0f God
Is Built 0n The Foundation 0f The Apostles & Prophets.
Ephs.2:20

The Members of The Household 0f God is not built on a Foundation of their Companions, Disciples, Evangelist, Pastors, Teachers, or those with the gift of Prophecy.

But Only On the Foundation 0f The Apostles & Prophets.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:31 AM
 
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"The Acts Of The Apostles" ?


Scripure tells that 'in these days Prophets came from Jerusalem to Antioch'. - Acts 11:27-30

The Apostle Paul was no stranger to The Prophet Agabus.
As it was also him who came from Jerusalem to Antioch
showing by The Spirit that of a great famine throughout all the world.
To which The Disciples send relief to the Brethern in Judea,
By The Hands Of The Apostles Barnabas and Paul.

We've been taught so much about The Apostle Paul's great Ministry.

But much of Paul's Ministry was with Prophets, or because of Prophets.

So why aren't we taught about: The Acts Of The Apostles And Prophets, instead.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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See God has Apostles in the church for the ministries outside the church for the development of the church of Christ... See some missionaries who go off and help people find God in foreign land and then there are people who pray for the Apostles or for people outside the walls of the Church which are anointed to pray from Jesus Spirit......See the Apostle needs all the office calling of the Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor and then the teacher.... Then the Prophet needs the teacher to explain the message from Jesus , as many prophets are not teachers ....... Then the Evangelist needs the Pastor to send people to His Church and have home for the converts ..... Most of Jesus prophets in the church today are giving messages for the development of the people and building faith in ideas Jesus is bringing which are already in the Bible as promises...
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