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I am wondering, since the holy spirit is mentioned in the bible, and is a part of Christianity, and was a part of Judaism before that, was there a time in the development of Judaism when someone just felt something they believed to be God's spirit, which they called the holy spirit or the holy ghost?
I am wondering, since the holy spirit is mentioned in the bible, and is a part of Christianity, and was a part of Judaism before that, was there a time in the development of Judaism when someone just felt something they believed to be God's spirit, which they called the holy spirit or the holy ghost?
I don't think the Holy Spirit was a large part of Judiasm. Judiasm was a law based religion. It's purpose was to illustrate the depravity of man - even though they did not know that at the time. They were to follow the law, and they received blessing or cursings based on their behavior.
David was aware of the Holy Spirit. Isaiah mentioned Him. But that's it.
I don't think the Holy Spirit was a large part of Judiasm. Judiasm was a law based religion. It's purpose was to illustrate the depravity of man - even though they did not know that at the time. They were to follow the law, and they received blessing or cursings based on their behavior.
What makes you say that when it isn't taught to be as that in the scriptures?
I don't think the Holy Spirit was a large part of Judiasm. Judiasm was a law based religion. It's purpose was to illustrate the depravity of man - even though they did not know that at the time. They were to follow the law, and they received blessing or cursings based on their behavior.
David was aware of the Holy Spirit. Isaiah mentioned Him. But that's it.
Do you have any references to back up that absurd statement ?
Moses - Abraham - Job - Noah - Enoch -all THE GREAT hero's in the bible were fully aware of God's (holy) Spirit!
Good topic, But is not the Holy Spirit our Lord Jesus before his flesh, (OT), first dispensation. and shared in Flesh and bone, with blood on earth, second dispensation. and Glorified in flesh and bone, without blood. his third dispensation. for there is only ONE Spirit. and the Lord is that Spirit. (see
2 Corinthians 3:17a)
What makes you say that when it isn't taught to be as that in the scriptures?
Galatians 3:19-24 - Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. 20 Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. 21 Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. 22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.
OK - not exactly the depravity of man - but it was added for transgressions in order to lead us to Christ.
But for the people who lived in that day - following the law did not involve the Holy Spirit. That's where I was going with my answer.
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Originally Posted by Atkutuq
Do you have any references to back up that absurd statement ?
Moses - Abraham - Job - Noah - Enoch -all THE GREAT hero's in the bible were fully aware of God's (holy) Spirit!
For clarity sake - from your list, only Moses was under the Law.
Good topic, But is not the Holy Spirit our Lord Jesus before his flesh, (OT), first dispensation. and shared in Flesh and bone, with blood on earth, second dispensation. and Glorified in flesh and bone, without blood. his third dispensation. for there is only ONE Spirit. and the Lord is that Spirit. (see
2 Corinthians 3:17a)
May God bless.
I answered this, in the negative, with Scriptural attestation, but then decided to delete my answer because I don't think it is really on topic.
If you want to start a new thread asking if the Holy Spirit is the pre-incarnate Jesus, I will answer it there.
Last edited by Michael Way; 02-21-2014 at 04:19 PM..
Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions,
OK - not exactly the depravity of man - but it was added for transgressions in order to lead us to Christ.
That's better however, that isn't true either. Why didn't it lead them to Christ?
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