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Old 10-21-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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I'm just curious, has anyone here advocated not allowing gay people into the doors of their church? This seems quite an extraordinary claim.
Well, what do you think of this 'preacher?' Think he wants gay people in his church? This one, or one like it, is what a lot of the posters on all these homosexual threads hear in church.

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Old 10-21-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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One thing that I have been reading on news, you can check it out for yourself, if this report is correct, the guy refusing to do the homosexual wedding is now going to have to face jail time and/or fines of $1,000 a day. Then there are a few reports where businesses who refuse to do business that is against their conscience, are going to "re-education camp" .. What does that mean - re-education camp?

Unfortunately, the law of this ungodly land is on the side of the homosexual agenda, Moderator cut: removing political stuff , the low information voters, and all the other assorted evil that does not love God, and so people who for conscience sake are now actually being hauled off to jail and pay fines of thousands of dollars, and causing them to go out of business.

Meanwhile the homosexuals are all dancing and having a party thinking they have won.

Hmmm, maybe they have won a temporary victory for the Prince of this world - Satan - however, in the eyes of God, that is another story.

Because of these things, I cannot and will not support the homosexual community which i once did. I thought they were a fun bunch of people, but now i see the evil, depravity and the utter protest against God Himself.

Nevertheless, God is stronger than all of these things, He is allowing the sinners to display their depravity. But the true church of God will not be defeated. It may be we need to take a stand and suffer for Christ's sake. And hopefull we will have the courage to help our good pastors out. Just like the early Christians did - risking thier life to help their brothers and sisters in jail.
What are re-education camps? There are used in communist China to throw political opponents in and throw away the key, that is what they are.

And your observation about militant gays are exactly what other people are coming to realize. That is the reason the non-militant gays want them to stop it.

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Old 10-22-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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Then there are a few reports where businesses who refuse to do business that is against their conscience, are going to "re-education camp" ..
What's the source of those reports?

We have, in this country, a free press and the First Amendment. All sorts of things can be reported. That doesn't mean the report is true. Add in free enterprise and people saying anything to get us to buy whatever they are selling......

Don't believe everything you hear.

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Old 10-25-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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Default Bully pulpit: Houston subpoenas pastors’ sermons, then backs off amidst outcry

Houston backs off church sermon subpoenas in transgender 'bathroom bill' fight - Washington Times
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Old 10-25-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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As the Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg put it a few years ago:
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.”
The fundamental problem at the heart of religious morality is simply this: religious morality is not grounded in human needs and human concerns, but in an entirely different idea — namely, obeying the will of God. (In practice, the role of God is played by the sum total of teaching and tradition which a believer has absorbed and the religious authorities whom they follow.) When these two align, good results can occur. But when the alleged will of God does not line up with human desires and needs, the results are dreadful. That's why we see otherwise "good" people willing to treat fellow human beings as dirt.

When a person believes, truly believes, that they know what God’s will is, they become almost impossible to reason with. This is because most religions teach that faith — belief not supported by evidence — is not just acceptable but commendable, and is the sign of a virtuous person. Of course, beliefs that weren’t based on evidence to begin with usually can’t be changed by evidence. For example, the recent science that indicates homosexuality has at least some genetic factors. This makes religious faith a very dangerous thing, because when a religious believer chooses a course of action that’s evil or harmful, efforts to persuade them to stop will be futile. After all, if God has told you what he wants you to do, any person who has a different opinion must be an agent of evil, and any compromise would be not just foolish but a sinful violation of God’s command.

This dangerous, dogmatic certainty wreaking havoc all over the world, causing untold harm and suffering to innocent people. When religious believers value obedience to their superstitions more highly than they value the lives of human beings, the consequences are always catastrophic.
You are on a roll, Warden! Preach it my brother!!
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