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Luk 5:15 But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their infirmities.
You see Christians get healed of their sickness.
Do you also believe that Cinderella's coach turned into a pumpkin at midnight?
2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
2Co 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
Paul was glad because he knew if he had a sickness or persecution that God would rescue him from it. He didn't need to be anxious about it for he had a savior that would save him from these things.
I know some of you have made statement that I haven't replied back to. If your statement was contentious then I may not have responded back to you. But others I just may have missed your comment.
I think the important message here is that those that are giving up hope because they are sick need not to. They need to realize that they can affix their hope in Christ. They can regain a momentum of life if they realize that God is involved in every part of their Life. God can save us from every sickness, not just sin.
If you minister is teaching you that God can't or wont save you from your cancer then that is in direct conflict with the nature of God.
I know some of you have made statement that I haven't replied back to. If your statement was contentious then I may not have responded back to you. But others I just may have missed your comment.
I think the important message here is that those that are giving up hope because they are sick need not to. They need to realize that they can affix their hope in Christ. They can regain a momentum of life if they realize that God is involved in every part of their Life. God can save us from every sickness, not just sin.
If you minister is teaching you that God can't or wont save you from your cancer then that is in direct conflict with the nature of God.
And if one is saved or cured and another is not? Does god love one more than the other?
When Benny HAHA Hinn strolls through a hospital and heals the sick, I will say that god is active and has his favorites.
Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father's care.
Matthew 10:29
"Christians" are not immune in the eyes of God..
That verse is supporting my point. The sparrows don't fall to the ground without the Father. In other words everyone's sickness and fate is in God's hands. There is no "chance" here. These things are all purposed, forseen, and expected.
This is what so many "Christians" don't understand. Many of them deny that God is implicated in every little detail in their lives.
If someone is sick they are told to call the elders:
Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
It doesn't say the sick are supposed to say it is absurd to think that God would save them from their sickness. It says here they are to call the elders - WHY? - obviously because God will heal them.
1.) Do you think God knew in advanced that your friend had cancer?
Yes, the Bible is clear that God is outside of time and all knowing
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2.) Do you think God can stop your friend from having cancer?
Yes, God can choose to heal and not to heal.
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3.) Why do you believe God has not stopped your friend from having cancer?
I have no idea, but what I do know: Rom 8:28 (ESV) - And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Jesus promised us persecution, pain, etc for being a Christian. It is only in Heaven where those things disappear. Any of the original disciples still alive today? We all die, Christian or not. The question is, who is sitting with us at the judgement table.
Why the fixation with cancer? Sorry if you already answered that. This thread grow quite large.
cd :O)
Yes, the Bible is clear that God is outside of time and all knowing
Yes, God can choose to heal and not to heal.
I have no idea, but what I do know: Rom 8:28 (ESV) - And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Jesus promised us persecution, pain, etc for being a Christian. It is only in Heaven where those things disappear. Any of the original disciples still alive today? We all die, Christian or not. The question is, who is sitting with us at the judgement table.
Why the fixation with cancer? Sorry if you already answered that. This thread grow quite large.
cd :O)
Yes Jesus said if THEY persecuted Him THEY shall surely persecute you when referring to His followers. But THEY is not the same thing as cancer. I have stated several times I believe a Christian can still get cancer but a True Christian that is in their repentance is not going to DIE from that cancer. I'm willing to reconsider that position but BASED ON WHAT?
I heard many contentious spirits come into this thread and give their 2 cents but my ears is as far as their message goes. God gave me a mind to think with rationally and logically and I need some biblical scriptural support because I got plenty that says that God heals the believer.
I only picked cancer as a sample.
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