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"While these explanations of how December 25 came to be the date of Christmas are all plausible, we know one thing for sure: The evidence that this day held a special significance to Christians predates the proof of a supposed celebration of Sol Invictus or other pagan deities on that day."
Very interesting article. Christmas has nothing to do with Pagan celebrations.
If it has nothing to do with pagan celebrations, then how does the unscriptural word Christmas connect to Christ Jesus ?
How did the apostles of Christ Jesus celebrate Jesus birthday? Since they did Not celebrate birthdays, they didn't.
The book the Lore of Birthdays helps people see how birthday customs are connected to non-biblical peoples.
Biblical Jews linked birthday celebrations with idol worship as a day set apart to honor a human. - Romans 1:25
Jesus died at age 33 1/2 on the Jewish Spring month of Nisan the 14th day.
If Jesus had not died, Jesus would have turned 34 in the Autumn of the year.
When Christians first celebrated Christmas they were a forbidden cult in the eyes of their Roman occupiers, where it was illegal for Christians to be even married in those early days , so while the Romans celebrated the Saturn day the Christians celebrated Christmas in hiding and the Romans could not do anything or they were just ignorant of the activities of Christians .......So even to day Christians celebrate the birth of the Saviour on the traditional day , the world celebrated The seasons greetings with Santa in these western nations Not a lot has changed except the persecution against Christian has been less today than in these Ancient Roman days
Awfully elaborate and convoluted way to explain that you really don't know. And, truly, besides the point.
Isn't the point that Jesus himself gave us only one calender date to remember him at Luke 22:19 ?
Jesus said we are to remember the day of his: death. [ Ecclesiastes 7:1 B ]
Since the Jews used a Lunar calender Jesus' date of death [ Nisan 14th ] is connected to when the Spring moon would be full in Jerusalem thus being very close to modern-day Passover memorials, or what is often termed by Christendom today as ' Good Friday '. However, just as an anniversary date does Not always come on a Friday, then the memorial of Jesus' death would also Not be on a Friday each year.
When Christians first celebrated Christmas they were a forbidden cult in the eyes of their Roman occupiers, where it was illegal for Christians to be even married in those early days , so while the Romans celebrated the Saturn day the Christians celebrated Christmas in hiding and the Romans could not do anything or they were just ignorant of the activities of Christians .......So even to day Christians celebrate the birth of the Saviour on the traditional day , the world celebrated The seasons greetings with Santa in these western nations Not a lot has changed except the persecution against Christian has been less today than in these Ancient Roman days
Since the apostles did Not celebrate Jesus' birthday, then 1st-century Christians would Not have been celebrating.
They believed the ' day of death ' to be more important - Please see Ecclesiastes 7 v 1 B; Luke 22 v 19
Especially when the Jews mixed with the Greeks they began fusing their theories and philosophies with Scripture.
That is why today we see similar overlapping religious customs and traditions in the world's stage.
Jesus warned us against non-biblical traditions or customs - Mark 7 vs 1-7,13; Matthew 15 v 9; Matthew chapter 23
Jesus died at age 33 1/2 on the Jewish Spring month of Nisan the 14th day.
If Jesus had not died, Jesus would have turned 34 in the Autumn of the year.
We know about his death. That is well-documented. His birth is not, despite what you think.
I know as well as any person who practices Messianic Judaism, I could bring people from MJ in here all day long which will tell you the same fact as I am stating.
Jesus had no choice but to be born on the first day of Booths, He is Lord of the Booths and born in a Booth, and he HAD to be circumcised on the day appointed for him to be circumcised.
But I can only speak of what I know and practice just as the rest of the MJs.
We know what we worship and practice the feast days of Christ.
I have an opinion of what I know because I studied the feast days of Christ.
Tell us what takes place on the 8 days of Sukkot.
I can give you an elaborate true depiction on what is said and done on the 8 days of Sukkot, and so I actually have an opinion. but countless of people will come in here and give opinions of what they do not know, and what they do not want to know.
I have a good opinion why Jesus had to die on Nissan 14, and I can show the prayers spoken, the events taking place, the traditions and rituals that all teach of Jesus having to die and it's traditions of burying the afikomen to show his burial and resurrection because everything done from Pesach to Shavuot is teaching Christ's death, resurrection and the giving of the spirit when you practice their traditions and rituals.
I have an opinion on Feast of firstfruits, and of unleavened bread, and Yom Kippur, and Sukkot and Shemini Atzereth because these are the appointed days of Christ to fulfill.
I have an opinion, do you actually know what is done on the appointed days of Christ to have an opinion?
Or will you give me your opinion on how Jesus is the Messiah of Babylon and show me Babylonian feast days and holy days that teach of searching for fertility God's and ordaining tress with precious metals to stand them up so that they will not fall?
Is that the Christi you teach?
A Babylonian Christ, or are you even able to have an opinion on the 7 feast days?
Can you tell us all the prayers spoken on Sukkot?
Can you show us all it's traditions and the comings and goings of the Temple on these days and exactly what the priests are doing that show the birth of Christ?
Have you ever seen the Two bowls, or heard the willows of Sukkot?
What are the 3 processions of priests doing at the water ceremony?
What do all the traditions, rituals and prayers teaching at Sukkot every year?
They teach of Christ birth, but have you ever looked into the Holy feast days of Christ in order to have an opinion?
Or will you say that Christ was born according to the Pagan festivals adopted by gentile Christians to save their life?
The average Christian who celebrates Christmas on December 25th has no NEED to know the beliefs of Messianic Judaism and so would be unable to answer that list of questions. If that religion works for you.... excellent. Go for it.
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If it has nothing to do with pagan celebrations, then how does the unscriptural word Christmas connect to Christ Jesus ?
How did the apostles of Christ Jesus celebrate Jesus birthday? Since they did Not celebrate birthdays, they didn't.
The book the Lore of Birthdays helps people see how birthday customs are connected to non-biblical peoples.
Biblical Jews linked birthday celebrations with idol worship as a day set apart to honor a human. - Romans 1:25
Sola Scriptura is too limiting. I see nothing wrong with the celebration of birthdays. In particular, the birth of the baby Jesus is celebrated by ALL Christians in the world.
If it has nothing to do with pagan celebrations, then how does the unscriptural word Christmas connect to Christ Jesus ?
How did the apostles of Christ Jesus celebrate Jesus birthday? Since they did Not celebrate birthdays, they didn't.
The book the Lore of Birthdays helps people see how birthday customs are connected to non-biblical peoples.
Biblical Jews linked birthday celebrations with idol worship as a day set apart to honor a human. - Romans 1:25
Plus every birthday celebration in scripture is pagan (Maybe one isn't, maybe) and ALL had a death, one of which was John the Baptizer, Kinda hints at how God feels about them, that all are bad and lead to death.
But hey it is fun.
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