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All I am saying (is give peace a chance)...Sorry, went of the board a little there...All I am saying is take it for what it says, stop trying to put twists on it that are not there...P'shat meaning (simple meaning)...
Let me use a very well known verse to put a cap on this thread:
No weapon formed against you shall stand, and every word against you shall be cast down. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS OF ME, saith the Lord.
Isaiah 54:17 - that's OT, God speaking - are we missing anything Richard?
Let me use a very well known verse to put a cap on this thread:
No weapon formed against you shall stand, and every word against you shall be cast down. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS OF ME, saith the Lord.
Isaiah 54:17 - that's OT, God speaking - are we missing anything Richard?
And who did He state that to?...
17Any weapon whetted against you shall not succeed, and any tongue that contends with you in judgment, you shall condemn; this is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their due reward from Me, says the Lord.
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17Any weapon whetted against you shall not succeed, and any tongue that contends with you in judgment, you shall condemn; this is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their due reward from Me, says the Lord.
Believers in Christ as of Calvary.
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever ***believes in Him*** shall not perish but have eternal life.
ZECH 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of Grace [ His Righteousness imputed to us by Faith in Christ]] and of Supplications ["born again of the Spirit"]: and they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
ZECH 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of Grace [ His Righteousness imputed to us by Faith in Christ]] and of Supplications ["born again of the Spirit"]: and they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
Zech. 12:
10And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.
That's Jerusalem...And it states nothing of a New Covenant....This has nothing to do with Gentiles....
Zech. 12:
10And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.
That's Jerusalem...And it states nothing of a New Covenant....This has nothing to do with Gentiles....
You have a very poor translation but yes, it is talking about the Jews specifically but remember the New Covenant is for the Jew first and then for the Gentles as stated elsewise in the Old and New Testaments in many places.
Zech, 12:10 Is a description of what some of the Gifts are that come with the New Covenant as promised to the Jews first. Even though Christ came to the Jew first, the New Covenant is the same for both Jews and Gentles which are the Gifts of the Spirit of Grace and the Spirit of Supplication by looking to Him who was pierced because of and for our transgressions. Through Abrahams seed are all the families of the earth blessed as the Scriptures say.
You might what to listen to Tom Cantor a born again Jew who as a great ministry among the Jews and also the Gentles. He is very content with the KJV of the Bible. In the beginning I had respect for some things you wrote but now because you have gone so far off coarse there is little to nothing of what you write that makes any sense.
You have a very poor translation but yes, it is talking about the Jews specifically but remember the New Covenant is for the Jew first and then for the Gentles as stated elsewise in the Old and New Testaments in many places.
No, it is not a poor translation...What you have is the poor translation...And that New Covenant is only for Israel and Judah, no Gentiles...
Zech, 12:10 Is a description of what some of the Gifts are that come with the New Covenant as promised to the Jews first.[/quote]
Now, where does it say Jew first?...
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Even though Christ came to the Jew first, the New Covenant is the same for both Jews and Gentles which are the Gifts of the Spirit of Grace and the Spirit of Supplication by looking to Him who was pierced because of and for our transgressions. Through Abrahams seed are all the families of the earth blessed as the Scriptures say.
It is only for the Gentile that has joined himself to G-d through Israel...Sorry, that is not what the Hebrew says:
10And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son.
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You might what to listen to Tom Cantor a born again Jew who as a great ministry among the Jews and also the Gentles.[quote]
He is not a Jew, he is a Christian...
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He is very content with the KJV of the Bible. In the beginning I had respect for some things you wrote but now because you have gone so far off coarse there is little to nothing of what you write that makes any sense.
What I write comes straight the TaNaKh...The KJV has been proven to be mistranslated...The TaNaKh came first before your KJV COT...
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