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Old 11-04-2015, 09:44 PM
 
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I must admit, I do not see how this post is in any way responsive to mine. What are you trying to say about your acceptance of barbarity and a bully God?
G-d's not a bully...We, as humans, are a bunch of whinny little spoiled brats that want to do what we want to do without any responsibility or repercussions for our screw-ups...In other words, we want to make up our own rules...
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:08 PM
 
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I've pretty much been a warrior since I was 19...Don't like bullies...Feel protective of those who can't protect themselves...The world is screwed up and I do what I have to do...So that others don't have to do it...
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I must admit, I do not see how this post is in any way responsive to mine. What are you trying to say about your acceptance of barbarity and a bully God?
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G-d's not a bully...We, as humans, are a bunch of whinny little spoiled brats that want to do what we want to do without any responsibility or repercussions for our screw-ups...In other words, we want to make up our own rules...
Unresponsive. Let me try again. How are your warrior statements relevant to the discussion?
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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Unresponsive. Let me try again. How are your warrior statements relevant to the discussion?
I am surprised that you cannot figure that out...The reason I have no issues with the way G-d does things is that I am a warrior and realize that humanity is screwed up and that there are time things have to be done for the greater good...I don't want to but it is what it is...
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:47 PM
 
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I am surprised that you cannot figure that out...The reason I have no issues with the way G-d does things is that I am a warrior and realize that humanity is screwed up and that there are time things have to be done for the greater good...I don't want to but it is what it is...
Ah, I begin to understand you a little better then. Regrettably, like Wood, I was a warrior in Viet Nam whose actions caused significant angst and remorse leading to a very different take on life and how we should respond to it. I was a B52 Radar Navigator/Bombardier in the USAF Strategic Air Command. In my 67 combat missions, I personally delivered over 4.5 million pounds of bombs. Gazillions of acres of jungle, supplies, structures, ordnance, equipment, weapons, wildlife, pets, babies, women, children and combatants were utterly demolished. It was upon my return to the states that I also had my unexpected epiphany and the complete elimination of my atheism. This added some urgency to understanding what the heck I had experienced and what our reality is all about, leading to 40+ years of study and investigation. We do not approach life and people from the same vantage point, Richard. I recognize and eschew barbarity in all its forms no matter what the reasons offered for it. I could no more love a God guilty of such barbarity than I could love my own actions in Nam.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:30 AM
 
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I am surprised that you cannot figure that out...The reason I have no issues with the way G-d does things is that I am a warrior and realize that humanity is screwed up and that there are time things have to be done for the greater good...I don't want to but it is what it is...
The idea of doing evil that good may come is self-defeating and the excuse for the most heinous crimes in our history..
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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The idea of doing evil that good may come is self-defeating and the excuse for the most heinous crimes in our history..
Not so...Excuses are not reasons...
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Ah, I begin to understand you a little better then. Regrettably, like Wood, I was a warrior in Viet Nam whose actions caused significant angst and remorse leading to a very different take on life and how we should respond to it. I was a B52 Radar Navigator/Bombardier in the USAF Strategic Air Command. In my 67 combat missions, I personally delivered over 4.5 million pounds of bombs. Gazillions of acres of jungle, supplies, structures, ordnance, equipment, weapons, wildlife, pets, babies, women, children and combatants were utterly demolished. It was upon my return to the states that I also had my unexpected epiphany and the complete elimination of my atheism. This added some urgency to understanding what the heck I had experienced and what our reality is all about, leading to 40+ years of study and investigation. We do not approach life and people from the same vantage point, Richard. I recognize and eschew barbarity in all its forms no matter what the reasons offered for it. I could no more love a God guilty of such barbarity than I could love my own actions in Nam.
My whole life, from the time I was a teen, was with the ideal of meeting a good woman and settling down, preferably on a farm with lots of woods around and a small town with a tight-knit community of good folks, and having children and loving from the heart, you know, where you physically feel this wonderful pressure in your chest that is not due to a heart-attack onset, and just enjoying life like sitting on the porch with a glass of Sunny-Time lemonade and holding my wife's hand and chatting about various things while watching the sun go down, and thinking about the eventuality of gran'babies on the horizon and then, eventually, peacefully passing on with my loved ones around me...Although I still feel as such, my ten years of service developed another side to me that allowed me to do what I had to do without permanently becoming that other type of individual...Sort of like a psychological switch, if you will...There are many experiences in my life that I wish that I could erase and remember no more...

Sometimes one has to fight fire with fire...And I resent it when I am forced into such a situation...Which is why I avoid physical confrontations now...I do not desire to see that other side of me...I do not want to have to "flip that switch", so to speak...
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