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My actions come from that of loving others.
I do not need to love God first to lay my life down.
Furthermore, I am not in need of a scapegoat to do that which is right.
I am not twisting anything. On the contrary, I requested you to clarify your own comment.
What did you mean by this?
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Laying down his own life is not an option.
Whether or not you love God is between you and God. Jesus said there are two great commandments, one of which is love God, and the other is love your neighbor. I have maintained they go hand in hand. That's my opinion, and anyone is free to disagree.
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I am not twisting anything. On the contrary, I requested you to clarify your comment.
What did you mean by this?
Whether or not you love God is between you and God. Jesus said there are two great commandments, one of which is love God, and the other is love your neighbor. I have maintained they go hand in hand. That's my opinion, and anyone is free to disagree.
We know they go hand in hand, you are preaching to the choir. What do you mean by "love God first" ?, could you clarify this please.
Whoever, is you, the one who believes that he must first love God.
Yet, you cannot explain what that entails, other than believing it.
Me? What makes you say serving others is an option for you, but not for me? Why do you suggest I do not serve my neighbor?
Could you explain please.
I have explained what loving God means several times. I have no idea why you say I have not. It seems to be some kind of game here. I gave some examples of it to Nate, and then we talked about them with mystic, and Warden also admitted seeing the list in post 145. You and some posters on my ignore list keep parroting I have not answered, and it seems they do it with hopes of getting the thread closed.
PS. It was Jesus who said the first greatest commandment is loving God. I said loving God leads to loving your neighbor, but I never said what you seem to suggest I said. Perhaps you should quote the post which you are referring to.
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Me? What makes you say serving others is an option for you, but not for me? Why do you suggest I do not serve my neighbor?
Could you explain please.
I have explained what loving God means several times. I have no idea why you say I have not. It seems to be some kind of game here. I gave some examples of it to Nate, and then we talked about them with mystic, and Warden also admitted seeing the list. You and some posters on my ignore list keep parroting I have not answered, and it seems they do it with hopes of getting the thread closed.
PS. It was Jesus who said the first greatest commandment is loving God. I said loving God leads to loving your neighbor, but I never said what you seem to suggest I said. Perhaps you should quote the post which you are referring to.
The first commandment is the fulfillment of the second.
The first commandment is the fulfillment of the second.
We already talked about that using examples of the thief on the cross and Paul.
So, what makes you say serving others is an option for you, but not for me? Why do you suggest I do not serve my neighbor? It is peculiar, because others who share your views have made the same claim, although they could not possibly know what they are talking about.
Could you explain please.
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The first commandment is the fulfillment of the second.
Bingo. The least you did unto one of these you did it unto me. The fundamentalist sees everyone trying to work their way to heaven because that is where he thinks from.
We already talked about that using examples of the thief on the cross and Paul.
So, what makes you say serving others is an option for you, but not for me? Why do you suggest I do not serve my neighbor?
Could you explain please.
You are nearly saying what you believe to love God first is by this post, it's the second time you have used this example. You are stopping short of what you really believe which is unless unless you believe all the right things about God and the bible, which to the mind of the fundamentalist is loving God first, then you cannot love your neighbor as yourself. You believe the thief showed he loved God first by believing. If not could you clarify please.
We already talked about that using examples of the thief on the cross and Paul.
So, what makes you say serving others is an option for you, but not for me? Why do you suggest I do not serve my neighbor? It is peculiar, because others who share your views have made the same claim, although they could not possibly know what they are talking about.
Could you explain please.
The thief on the cross put that of another above himself for "this man is innocent of any wrong-doing."
Whereas, the other thief said: "Save yourself, and us," while others (the soldiers) also mocked him.
If you desire to love God, put others ahead of yourself for the well-being of all involved or those effected.
The thief on the cross put that of another above himself for "this man is innocent of any wrong-doing."
Whereas, the other thief said: "Save yourself, and us," while others (the soldiers) also mocked him.
If you desire to love God, put others ahead of yourself for the well-being of all involved or those effected.
I listed "honor God with your actions" as one example of how you love God. The thief also humbled himself and recognized Jesus as the son of God. He said : "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom".
So, what makes you say serving others is an option for you, but not for me? Why do you suggest I do not serve my neighbor?
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