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Old 01-30-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Some nerve of them landing without papers. You would think they were trying to be Jesus or an apostle or something.
You know what they say about illegal aliens....the dynamics are OUT OF THIS WORLD!!

 
Old 01-30-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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You know what they say about illegal aliens....the dynamics are OUT OF THIS WORLD!!
That would depend on HOW "alien" they are and to what part of the globe.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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You know what they say about illegal aliens....the dynamics are OUT OF THIS WORLD!!
"As a general rule, I've found the more CAPITAL letters and exclamation marks!!!! - the emptier the content of the message of either wit, knowledge, insight or import." ~ troutdude
apparently you're the exception to toutedude's self papel bull memo.

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Old 01-30-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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"As a general rule, I've found the more CAPITAL letters and exclamation marks!!!! - the emptier the content of the message of either wit, knowledge, insight or import." ~ troutdude
apparently you're the exception to toutedude's self papel bull memo.
Uh-huh. Which is why I used the word "general."
 
Old 01-30-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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You know what they say about illegal aliens....the dynamics are OUT OF THIS WORLD!!
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"As a general rule, I've found the more CAPITAL letters and exclamation marks!!!! - the emptier the content of the message of either wit, knowledge, insight or import." ~ troutdude
apparently you're the exception to troutdude's self papel bull memo.
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Uh-huh. Which is why I used the word "general."
like it's a secret why for the bigoted prefacing?

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Old 01-30-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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like it's a secret why for the bigoted prefacing?
I have no idea what this means.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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I hope this won't be considered too political but I'd like feedback from Christians (and others if they wish) as to whether or not they agree with the Pope.



Reject refugees = Not a Christian
I admit it, I'm not the brightest bulb when it comes to political stuff. I find it extremely difficult to figure out what's true because it seems like NOBODY reports the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

As far as I am aware (and I have seen in person), Christian churches and organizations have been sponsoring immigrants for many years. Are there massive amounts of Christians now saying that they won't do that anymore? -- because that's not what I'm seeing.

What I'm hearing from most people is not a desire to reject immigrants, but that they want to see immigration being handled safely, responsibly, and the laws being followed. Is the pope saying that that's not okay? Do other people here feel that's not okay?
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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I admit it, I'm not the brightest bulb when it comes to political stuff. I find it extremely difficult to figure out what's true because it seems like NOBODY reports the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

As far as I am aware (and I have seen in person), Christian churches and organizations have been sponsoring immigrants for many years. Are there massive amounts of Christians now saying that they won't do that anymore? -- because that's not what I'm seeing.

What I'm hearing from most people is not a desire to reject immigrants, but that they want to see immigration being handled safely, responsibly, and the laws being followed. Is the pope saying that that's not okay? Do other people here feel that's not okay?
What laws have not been followed and what is wrong with the current system? Other than a hefty dose of FEAR.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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You know what they say about illegal aliens....the dynamics are OUT OF THIS WORLD!!


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"As a general rule, I've found the more CAPITAL letters and exclamation marks!!!! - the emptier the content of the message of either wit, knowledge, insight or import." ~ troutdude
apparently you're the exception to toutedude's self papel bull memo.
i don't know what you are attempting to say?? Or even why you feel the need to say it??

I am feeling like this is a personal attack on my person....
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I admit it, I'm not the brightest bulb when it comes to political stuff. I find it extremely difficult to figure out what's true because it seems like NOBODY reports the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

As far as I am aware (and I have seen in person), Christian churches and organizations have been sponsoring immigrants for many years. Are there massive amounts of Christians now saying that they won't do that anymore? -- because that's not what I'm seeing.

What I'm hearing from most people is not a desire to reject immigrants, but that they want to see immigration being handled safely, responsibly, and the laws being followed. Is the pope saying that that's not okay? Do other people here feel that's not okay?
The story I linked to was the Pope's response to Trump's ban on refugees from seven countries. It's not a generalized immigration issue. As I understand it, the average time between seeking asylum in the US and it being granted (IF it is granted), is 18 months to 2 years. During that time, the applicants are vetted by many agencies before being granted entrance.

How much more vetting is necessary than that? The US's procedures are already among the most stringent in the world.

But I really wanted to avoid the political aspects of the issue and concentrate on the moral ones. Especially the Pope's claim that one cannot reject refugees and claim to be a Christian.
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