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It backs up what I said. The Hebrew word is used in scripture for both unintentional killing and murder, thus it is speaking of any kind of killing and not just murder.
And how does one acquire meat to eat? Oh, yeah, it needs to be killed. But as you implied previously in another post, it says, "You shall not murder-kill", period, without stipulation as to whether it even concerns only other human beings or not: for every living creature of Elohim is a living soul. There are some sea creatures which are not living souls, and insects, grasshoppers, and the like upon the land which are not called living souls, but every living creature is a living soul. And to eat one of them it must first be killed, that is to say, a living soul must be killed. That commandment, which is repeated again in Deuteronomy 5, is rock solid, there is no way around it except to start changing the definitions of words and watering down the meanings and definitions: which is precisely what both modern Christianity and modern Judaism are guilty of doing. How can one say that he or she is full of love and then claim the right to murder innocent living creatures and living souls of Elohim and eat their flesh to satisfy the lust of the belly? (Not implying you but rather simply in the context of some of the other things which others have recently said in this same portion of this current discussion).
"You shall not kill" = "You shall not kill", "You shall not murder", "You shall not take away the life of another living soul", (period), and every living creature of the whole creation of Elohim is a living soul.
This is why Paul uses differentiating words like brosin, broma, (which concern only things that are declared to be "food" for eating in the scripture, i.e. Genesis 1:29-30), and the more rare, kreas, (literal meat of the flesh of animals). Moreover in the early English translations, like the KJV, in those times "meat" did not always mean the literal flesh of animals, and as is often the case, even grain offerings are called meat. These things also need to be kept in mind. The writings of Paul are very, shall we say, crafty, but are in compliance with what is written, (for as you apparently already know, the Torah is spiritual).
And how does one acquire meat to eat? Oh, yeah, it needs to be killed. But as you implied previously in another post, it says, "You shall not murder-kill", period, without stipulation as to whether it even concerns only other human beings or not: for every living creature of Elohim is a living soul. There are some sea creatures which are not living souls, and insects, grasshoppers, and the like upon the land which are not called living souls, but every living creature is a living soul. And to eat one of them it must first be killed, that is to say, a living soul must be killed. That commandment, which is repeated again in Deuteronomy 5, is rock solid, there is no way around it except to start changing the definitions of words and watering down the meanings and definitions: which is precisely what both modern Christianity and modern Judaism are guilty of doing. How can one say that he or she is full of love and then claim the right to murder innocent living creatures and living souls of Elohim and eat their flesh to satisfy the lust of the belly? (Not implying you but rather simply in the context of some of the other things which others have recently said in this same portion of this current discussion).
"You shall not kill" = "You shall not kill", "You shall not murder", "You shall not take away the life of another living soul", (period), and every living creature of the whole creation of Elohim is a living soul.
This is why Paul uses differentiating words like brosin, broma, (which concern only things that are declared to be "food" for eating in the scripture, i.e. Genesis 1:29-30), and the more rare, kreas, (literal meat of the flesh of animals). Moreover in the early English translations, like the KJV, in those times "meat" did not always mean the literal flesh of animals, and as is often the case, even grain offerings are called meat. These things also need to be kept in mind. The writings of Paul are very, shall we say, crafty, but are in compliance with what is written, (for as you apparently already know, the Torah is spiritual).
The earnest expectation of the creature awaits the manifestation of the sons of Elohim: for the creature has been made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of the One who subjected the same in hope, (in hope that the natural minded man would eventually come to his senses and come to the realization that such things are supernal and spiritual in meaning: for no blood of beasts can atone for sins, though the beast be spotless, perfect, and innocent), for the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of Elohim, for we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together even until now. And the whole creation earnestly awaits the revealing of the sons of Elohim because the creature somehow knows that the true sons of Elohim will not slit their throats, drain their blood, cook their flesh, and devour them for a happy meal to satisfy the lust of the belly.
The earnest expectation of the creature awaits the manifestation of the sons of Elohim: for the creature has been made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of the One who subjected the same in hope, (in hope that the natural minded man would eventually come to his senses and come to the realization that such things are supernal and spiritual in meaning: for no blood of beasts can atone for sins, though the beast be spotless, perfect, and innocent), for the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of Elohim, for we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together even until now. And the whole creation earnestly awaits the revealing of the sons of Elohim because the creature somehow knows that the true sons of Elohim will not slit their throats, drain their blood, cook their flesh, and devour them for a happy meal to satisfy the lust of the belly.
PS ~ It says I cannot rep you again yet either.
When I read your other post that is the set of scriptures that came to my mind.
Actually, I think the whole creation is awaiting the revealing/manifestation of the sons of G-d as a WOMAN (Mother we get caught up into) awaits the revealing/manifestation/travailing in birth of her sons, all born in a day, and it has NADA to do with literal animals, save these sons are birthed out of another stable/holding pen for carnal beastly natures that DO get their throats slit, and their flesh is eaten/consumed after having the motive of the heart cleansed (overcome in themselves), just as Moses rod consumed (covered over) the serpent natures of the Egyptians, and then he had authority over the things in heaven AND in earth.
Same principle as standing on the moon and it turning to blood before the great and notable day of the Lord, which is not no part darkness (7th day) because there is no darkness, but rather the darkness has been overcome and covered over just as the mercy seat covered the tablets of the law that ministered death to the hearer. Agree with your adversary while you are in the way with him, because he is set to be the footstool (does not any good footstool elevate the FEET, the feet are those sons who are standing upon Mt. Zion when all is said and DONE).
And same principle as Moses and Elijah standing on either side of Christ, because they disappeared under the new Ark of the Covenant, their covering, the tree of life that all the beasts of the field will lie under (but only if they are first overcome = true peace, when the soul and the Spirit are no longer warring against each other). Did someone feel a birth pang? Peace
Actually, I think the whole creation is awaiting the revealing/manifestation of the sons of G-d as a WOMAN (Mother we get caught up into) awaits the revealing/manifestation/travailing in birth of her sons, all born in a day, and it has NADA to do with literal animals, save these sons are birthed out of another stable/holding pen for carnal beastly natures that DO get their throats slit, and their flesh is eaten/consumed after having the motive of the heart cleansed (overcome in themselves), just as Moses rod consumed (covered over) the serpent natures of the Egyptians, and then he had authority over the things in heaven AND in earth.
Why is it that your spiritual views are so filled with so much carnal imagery??
Why is it that your spiritual views are so filled with so much carnal imagery??
Interesting, I was thinking the same thing.
I suppose, it makes her sound sophisticated.
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some people have one heck of a weird idea of love.
