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In the Bible, the only marriage is between man and woman. There is No provision for any other form of marriage.
Even if 'secular marriage' would allow marriage between same sex people or people with animals, that would never qualify as a scriptural God-given marriage arrangement.
Under Christ's coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth there will be healing for earth's nations according to Revelation 22:2. So, any thoughts out of harmony with Scripture will No longer be a problem.
It's grounds for divorce, but this question is about re-marriage. Re-marriage is adultery if the first spouse is alive. Adultery is every bit as sinful as any other sin you would care to name. Such as say, hypocrisy.
Ah, the presumtive accussation that Kim Davis committed adultry is the bases for the thread.
A certificate for Divorce is permitted if a spouse has committed adultry.
If Kim Davis divorced for this reason then the marriage was legally annulled. And if she remarried it is fine.
If this were the case she has not committed adultry.
The outright accussation is slander.
And libel.
Typically divorce records are sealed and not public record.
So if this be the case with Kim davis.
She can sue for libel.
Divorces are public record. Thats why they are published in newspapers, along with other vital statistics.
Please quote a scripture stating that a divorced person is free to re-marry. Jesus said remarriage is adultery.
So heterosexuals can be adulterers, and homosexuals can't be? That makes no sense. Both approaches are just as likely.
Whatever you might consider as being an "adulterer" on either side (and the sin of that), the same-sex group take on an additional "offense"; violating the laws of nature (not having both male and female). You don't see male and male birds, or female and female rabbits, etc. in nature. There is huge weight and proportion behind the exclusiveness of one of each gender only.
You're right it may have been over-reaching to call it a cop out to quit her job. Nonetheless, she did no such thing anyhow.
Scripture doesn't command or teach that a Disciple of Christ "quit their job" every time it is required to disobey Gods laws.
As Christians, we stand our ground for our Savior, obeying him in all we do, and let the cards fall where they may.
We are here to Glorify GOD at every opportunity so that is what Christians do. It's what UNITES us. Unbelievers would love for Kim to step out of the light and Christ NOT BE glorified. Any excuse to point fingers to the wrong wrong. Call Good Evil.
We model Christ to the world. And Kim does not get to re-define marriage thru her job or private life. No Christian would promote such heresy.
She heeded Gods laws thus becoming a light for the world. Literally as it went viral. She stood for the truth of Gods covenant of Marriage by disobeying the Land of the Law when it opposes Gods law.
Jesus did the same when healing on the Sabbath. When carrying a bed. When pushing over the tables in what he labeled "Gods house, turned into a den of thieves"
If she's not saved the Apostle Pal says, unbelievers can be used to spread the gospel even if they have ill motives for doing it. So either way, God was glorified thru her decision
Good for her
Matthew 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
John 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
The point I was trying to make is that it is God's law to obey man's law whenever possible. It was possible in this situation because the obvious remedy was to just quit. If man's law goes against God's law then I agree a Christian should go along with God's law and even though I'm not Christian I would hate to see them punished for it by the civil authority. People have gone to jail for refusing to serve in the armed forces. There was no compromise in that situation so they obeyed what they felt was God's law over man's and served their sentence.
FTR, this is biblical. The closest example in scripture to Kim is the circumstance of the adulteres about to be stoned. Her history, akin to Kim's, is to "have had many husbands" to which Jesus replied " YOU TELL THE TRUTH, and the man you are with now is not your husband"
If you notice the wording here, this adulteress called Jesus LORD. This is keyThis means Jesus is dealing with one of his own.
He is dealing with a SAINT who is backsliding, not a Sinner aka Adulteress, who knows nothing but to sin. So he dealt with her as one of his own. He saved her life, TWICE. Once via a bodily stoning to death and the second time, later, via her resurrection to heaven. He also instructed her to "Go and Sin NO MORE"
The only people who can "go and sin no more" are Christians. Because humans, in the flesh without the holy spirit physically present with them (Jesus) or the holy spirit given after his death, cannot do so. Mere humans imputed with Christs righteousness (after his death & resuurection) can resist sin. And when they do not, that sin is covered via the lambs blood so they are still viewed as pure and holy pertaining to salvation. Slowly a Christian does conform to Christs image...meaning to sin less, or they are not a Christ Follower.
But everyone starts at a different stage of the game. Some people were huge bigtime sinners with many tickets racked up, and others, not so much.
So Kim is correct.
Adultery is a sin and so is divorce for the wrong reasons. Because GOD joined the man and the woman together in holy matrimonyt having them become one flesh. No one is to tear that flesh apart. But to issue validity to a marriage, that coming together that god does via one flesh, the bride of Christ, IS NOT defined as a marriage when it is not a man and woman. They cannot come together as their bodies weren't created to do so. Literrally, spiritually, figuratively, you name it.
Homosexuality is a sin so heinous GOD destroyed an entire city due to it, is another thing all together. Sure they were rapists also, not just homosexuals but homosexuality is so condemned anyhow. And Rape occurs all over the place but only cities Sodom & Gomorrah were entirely destroyed over these homosexual rapists. Allowing only Gods own to escape. This is the only example of homsoexuality in scripture and it is linking them to being rapists. That is because that is pretty much how they got that way in the first place. A homosexual rapist got to them to groom them into what they are. A study on the word effeminate will explain this
Everyone will sin, including Saints, but they are not mastered by their sin nor viewed as tainted because of it. God defines marriage, Kim doesn't get to. Even if she tried by issuing marriage licenses that direcly oppose Gods laws. That directly oppose the sanctity of marriage and the roles assigned to each sex. Trying to call homosexuality the exact opposite of what it is, a covenant of GOD, is horrendous. Kim has no right to do so. And imho, there is no reason why she should be persecuted (loose her job) for following the true laws of the land. For following truth. No matter how much of a sinner she was.
Adultery is very very bad. No one questions that. Homosexuality is very very bad, no one questions that, as is rape. But had ANY person involved in all of these sins combined responded to Jesus as the Adulteress did, they would be viewed as the Saint they are. A backslider with the ability to "Go and sin no more" in the future. Seen as pure and righteous no matter what. eserving of salvation. Since now the adulteress had the holy spirit present with her asking her where her accusers went. After jesus death and resurection, the holy spirit was a gift given to all Saints who died and rose with, that holy spirit we call Jesus. AKA God the Father, AKA God the son.
Why are you bringing rape into this? There is nothing sinful about rape. Notice that Lot offered up his two young daughters to be raped, and he is called a righteous man and spared. He was not rebuked in any way.
The only prohibition about rape in the Bible is not buying her afterwards.
The point I was trying to make is that it is God's law to obey man's law whenever possible. It was possible in this situation because the obvious remedy was to just quit. If man's law goes against God's law then I agree a Christian should go along with God's law and even though I'm not Christian I would hate to see them punished for it by the civil authority. People have gone to jail for refusing to serve in the armed forces. There was no compromise in that situation so they obeyed what they felt was God's law over man's and served their sentence.
That's the entire point.
Wasn't she punished for disobeying a law of the land handed down by...........
And so in following Gods Instruction she is hated and slandered because this is all the enemy of God has.
lucifer was a liar in the begining, and of course a murderer also.
Comparing this to refusing the draft. Interesting comparrison.
Though it is an entirely different subject.
The draft only applied to males of a specific age group.
Which tells alot about the motives.
Why are you bringing rape into this? There is nothing sinful about rape. Notice that Lot offered up his two young daughters to be raped, and he is called a righteous man and spared. He was not rebuked in any way.
The only prohibition about rape in the Bible is not buying her afterwards.
Funny how the 10 Suggestions missed that rape and slavery thing, huh?
Why are you bringing rape into this? There is nothing sinful about rape. Notice that Lot offered up his two young daughters to be raped, and he is called a righteous man and spared. He was not rebuked in any way.
The only prohibition about rape in the Bible is not buying her afterwards.
You error making assumptions where they do not exist.
God doesn't owe you to give a reason why a person wasn't reprimanded for each and every sin committed.
Don't take that as a license to assume our righteous Lord approves of sin.
You are fully aware the bible teaches otherwise so spare us your deceit.
Personally, I think God removing his wife from the earth moments later was a good reprimand. Taking 1/2 your flesh, your loved one away is a pretty heafty penalty.
Nothing good comes from heinous sin being committed by the Saint or Sinner
That's the entire point.
Wasn't she punished for disobeying a law of the land handed down by...........
And so in following Gods Instruction she is hated and slandered because this is all the enemy of God has.
lucifer was a liar in the begining, and of course a murderer also.
Comparing this to refusing the draft. Interesting comparrison.
Though it is an entirely different subject.
The draft only applied to males of a specific age group.
Which tells alot about the motives.
Same as it is with unlawful orders.
She's shouldn't been punished for disobeying man's law. If she had followed Bible principles she wouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. I was just trying to show that people have been in legitimate situations where the command to obey secular law was in direct opposition to God's what someone believes is God's law. I don't hate Kim Davis. From what I understand she's had a pretty rough life. I wouldn't want to walk in her shoes. I completely understand how important it was for her to do what she felt was right because I've been a member of a fundamentalist group and could see the two choice she was faced with. She came up with a third option though and it was all about saving her financial butt.
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