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Some people on this forum have said that Scripture must be God-breathed because Jesus quotes it, inferring that this means that EVERYTHING in the collection of written works known as The Bible must be true.
Others of us strongly disagree.
I get these emails from a contemplative site, and I found the part on this page entitled, "Reading Scripture With The Mind of Christ" to be an interesting take, that, of course, is aligned with my opinion.
Some people on this forum have said that Scripture must be God-breathed because Jesus quotes it, inferring that this means that EVERYTHING in the collection of written works known as The Bible must be true.
Others of us strongly disagree.
I get these emails from a contemplative site, and I found the part on this page entitled, "Reading Scripture With The Mind of Christ" to be an interesting take, that, of course, is aligned with my opinion.
Jesus sees where the text is truly heading, beyond the low-level consciousness of a particular moment, fear, or circumstance. He knows there is a bigger arc to the story: one that reveals a God who is compassionate, nonviolent, and inclusive of outsiders. He knows how to “thin slice” the text, to find the overall pattern based on small windows of insight. He learned from Ezekiel, for example, that God’s justice is restorative and not retributive (see Ezekiel 18:21-23, 27-29).
Do we really think Jesus "learned" from Ezekiel? Or that Jesus sees where the text is heading - as though He had been pouring through the text to figure it out?
C'mon man... Jesus created the world we live in. He has existed for all of time. He does not need to learn anything. He knows it all already.
Jonhn 8:58 - Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
Jesus sees where the text is truly heading, beyond the low-level consciousness of a particular moment, fear, or circumstance. He knows there is a bigger arc to the story: one that reveals a God who is compassionate, nonviolent, and inclusive of outsiders. He knows how to “thin slice” the text, to find the overall pattern based on small windows of insight. He learned from Ezekiel, for example, that God’s justice is restorative and not retributive (see Ezekiel 18:21-23, 27-29).
Do we really think Jesus "learned" from Ezekiel? Or that Jesus sees where the text is heading - as though He had been pouring through the text to figure it out?
C'mon man... Jesus created the world we live in. He has existed for all of time. He does not need to learn anything. He knows it all already.
Jonhn 8:58 - Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
I know what you're saying, but I think you have to acknowledge that there is a POV that Jesus, as a human, indeed had to learn things the same way everybody else does, even those who believe Jesus was fully divine as well as fully human, the category of which I'm guessing the writer falls under.
I know what you're saying, but I think you have to acknowledge that there is a POV that Jesus, as a human, indeed had to learn things the same way everybody else does, even those who believe Jesus was fully divine as well as fully human, the category of which I'm guessing the writer falls under.
No, He doesn't need to learn anything.
John 4:17-18 - The woman answered and said, "I have no husband." Jesus said to her, "You have correctly said, `I have no husband'; 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; this you have said truly."
John 4:28 - So the woman left her waterpot, and went into the city and said to the men, 29 "Come, see a man who told me all the things that I have done; this is not the Christ, is it?"
So Jesus, not knowing this woman, told her about her past. Why would He not know Scripture already?
John 4:17-18 - The woman answered and said, "I have no husband." Jesus said to her, "You have correctly said, `I have no husband'; 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; this you have said truly."
John 4:28 - So the woman left her waterpot, and went into the city and said to the men, 29 "Come, see a man who told me all the things that I have done; this is not the Christ, is it?"
So Jesus, not knowing this woman, told her about her past. Why would He not know Scripture already?
LOL, DRob, I am not going to argue with you about this one little phrase you pulled out of a sentence on the website. Obviously the author does not agree with your POV or he wouldn't have written that.
I don't know what Jesus knew or didn't know about Scripture, and I really don't care. That wasn't the point of the thread. You can disregard that sentence if you don't believe it to be accurate.
I know what you're saying, but I think you have to acknowledge that there is a POV that Jesus, as a human, indeed had to learn things the same way everybody else does, even those who believe Jesus was fully divine as well as fully human, the category of which I'm guessing the writer falls under.
Jesus sees where the text is truly heading, beyond the low-level consciousness of a particular moment, fear, or circumstance. He knows there is a bigger arc to the story: one that reveals a God who is compassionate, nonviolent, and inclusive of outsiders. He knows how to “thin slice” the text, to find the overall pattern based on small windows of insight. He learned from Ezekiel, for example, that God’s justice is restorative and not retributive (see Ezekiel 18:21-23, 27-29).
Do we really think Jesus "learned" from Ezekiel? Or that Jesus sees where the text is heading - as though He had been pouring through the text to figure it out?
C'mon man... Jesus created the world we live in. He has existed for all of time. He does not need to learn anything. He knows it all already.
Jonhn 8:58 - Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
Do you know how many "I AM's" there are in reference to humanity; and its (their) relationship to God?
Last edited by Jerwade; 01-25-2018 at 03:40 PM..
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