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Old 05-08-2018, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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SAAN, whenever I hear someone say that, I automatically know they will be wrong on most Bible topics!
correction: you automatically know they don't buy into the doctrines of men you follow. You don't believe the promise of Jesus for a guide to be with us always.
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Old 05-08-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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In my experience YOUR experience is blinding yourself to what rational explanations don't match the doctrines you have been taught.
ok.
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Old 05-08-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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Which would you rather have....a stone with ten commandments or the actual Holy Spirit of God living IN you for guidance?
But I would still be keeping those commands with that same Spirit though.
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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But I would still be keeping those commands with that same Spirit though.


You would be doing better under grace.......where we have died to the law.....it no longer affects those in the body of Christ........our sins are paid for in advance at the cross.....
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You would be doing better under grace.......where we have died to the law.....it no longer affects those in the body of Christ........our sins are paid for in advance at the cross.....
Provided we repent of them.
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Usually in my experience it's people that prefer to simply create a God in their own minds instead of having to submit to what he's said about himself. Inevitably, their version of God approves of whatever pet sins they have and condemns the closed-mindedness of others.
What has he said about himself, other than what men have thought and wrote?
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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What has he said about himself, other than what men have thought and wrote?
He usually deflects to his Father.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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But I would still be keeping those commands with that same Spirit though.
And does the Law in itself make you WANT to do what is right? The point of the "New Commandment" is not that there is anything "new" about it (as Peter pointed out) or even that it is not something to be "enforced" in the sense of a "command," but that it is now the BASIS for community with God and man.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:55 PM
 
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And does the Law in itself make you WANT to do what is right? The point of the "New Commandment" is not that there is anything "new" about it (as Peter pointed out) or even that it is not something to be "enforced" in the sense of a "command," but that it is now the BASIS for community with God and man.
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Old 05-08-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: New England
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I discovered that when i thought about the things that i didn't want to do i ended up doing them. So i learned to think upon the things that i wanted to do.

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

It's where transformation begins.
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