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If you have studied the differences between Bible translations, please use this thread as your opportunity to share what you have learned.
What Bible translation have you found to be the most accurate, and how extensive was your study before coming up with this conclusion?
I've seen some major differences, as well as minor differences, with various translations (ie, KJV--->NKJV--->M-TEXT) and the very differences in the translations can DRASTICALLY change a doctrinal belief of critical importance. For example, one translation/scripture might contain the word "MAY", while the other translation of the very same scripture might say the word "WILL". These are obviously 2 very different words with very different meanings, and this very topic has puzzled the minds of great scholars throughout centuries.
While there are many that aim to "modernize" the "original" context, many feel that such an attempt is inappropriate, as more (or fewer) words leave too many questions as to what the original manuscripts say. I have also noted in my Greek/Hebrew Interlinear that one must try to ponder whether such a translation is any more accurate than the others sold on the shelves or on the internet.
If you've done great study on the topic, please list any references that you are aware of that one can use as they further their own studies in this subject.
Thanks in advance for all of your input and God bless you for your willingness to contribute to this thread.
Oh, I never knew about that one; thanks for the info. I just checked that one out on BlueletterBible.com to see other differences as well. Have a look...
Phil 2:5 KJV Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God NKJV who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, NLT Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God. NIV Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, (Footnote: Or in the form of) ESV who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, RSV who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, Darby who, subsisting in the form of God, did not esteem it an object of rapine to be on an equality with God;
And here is one I was taking a deeper look into last night, after someone asked me my thoughts about the scripture: 1 Timothy 2:4. It's interesting in that the word "Savior" (NKJV) is written as "Deliverer" in my version of the Greek/Hebrew interlinear, and the word "saved" is written as "delivered".
KJV: Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
NKJV: who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
ASV: who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.
Darby: who desires that all men should be saved and come to [the] knowledge of [the] truth.
Obviously, this is a subject/scripture which creates great debate over what the passage actually means, but it's interesting to note the differences. What I found to be interesting is the correlating passages that are noted as a reference to this particular scripture. This is what I found....
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else.
Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves,and live ye.
Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
John 3:15, 16, 17: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 6:36 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Now one obviously would consider which scriptures are speaking of literal death verses spiritual death....., who the person was that wrote the passage, whom they were speaking to, what was the situation at the time, etc..
Now my next job is to look these scriptures up, each one in itself, to see the different versions/translations for each....
It makes one wonder, doesn't it? To study such passages is thrilling, and quite exciting, as you get further into the systematic study of each topic as a whole. However, some religions will use entirely different passages to support a subject or doctrinal belief. Imagine: looking into 1 particular subject... say, "salvation", and look at the scripture passages that 3 or 4 different religions are using to back up their own doctrinal beliefs on the subject. Then breaking down each of the scriptures into studying what the different versions of each scripture are in different Bibles. Then looking up correlating passages of each particular scripture, that each religion uses to support it's beliefs on the topic at hand.... Then attempting to find commentaries from different theologians of different faiths to see their viewpoints on the scriptures being used.......It would take someone every day of a year or more to get to the bottom of just one of the subjects in question. And then to determine which doctrine is the most accurate in terms of what Jesus and the apostles taught? Brilliant! Tiring, but brilliant!
Oh, I never knew about that one; thanks for the info. I just checked that one out on BlueletterBible.com to see other differences as well. Have a look...
Phil 2:5 KJV Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God NKJV who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, NLT Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God. NIV Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, (Footnote: Or in the form of) ESV who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, RSV who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, Darby who, subsisting in the form of God, did not esteem it an object of rapine to be on an equality with God;
And here is one I was taking a deeper look into last night, after someone asked me my thoughts about the scripture: 1 Timothy 2:4. It's interesting in that the word "Savior" (NKJV) is written as "Deliverer" in my version of the Greek/Hebrew interlinear, and the word "saved" is written as "delivered".
KJV: Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
NKJV: who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
ASV: who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.
Darby: who desires that all men should be saved and come to [the] knowledge of [the] truth.
Obviously, this is a subject/scripture which creates great debate over what the passage actually means, but it's interesting to note the differences. What I found to be interesting is the correlating passages that are noted as a reference to this particular scripture. This is what I found....
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else.
Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and] not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves,and live ye.
Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
John 3:15, 16, 17: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 6:36 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Interesting... the letter killeth, the spirit maketh alive. Thankfully we can ask to hear the fulness of truth from the Holy Ghost and know.
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Now one obviously would consider which scriptures are speaking of literal death verses spiritual death....., who the person was that wrote the passage, whom they were speaking to, what was the situation at the time, etc..
I actually believe we can overcome sin and that death will back down. Mortality can be swallowed up of life.
Jesus taught this, and there were some that fulfilled it.
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Now my next job is to look these scriptures up, each one in itself, to see the different versions/translations for each....
It makes one wonder, doesn't it? To study such passages is thrilling, and quite exciting, as you get further into the systematic study of each topic as a whole. However, some religions will use entirely different passages to support a subject or doctrinal belief. Imagine: looking into 1 particular subject... say, "salvation", and look at the scripture passages that 3 or 4 different religions are using to back up their own doctrinal beliefs on the subject. Then breaking down each of the scriptures into studying what the different versions of each scripture are in different Bibles. Then looking up correlating passages of each particular scripture, that each religion uses to support it's beliefs on the topic at hand.... Then attempting to find commentaries from different theologians of different faiths to see their viewpoints on the scriptures being used.......It would take someone every day of a year or more to get to the bottom of just one of the subjects in question. And then to determine which doctrine is the most accurate in terms of what Jesus and the apostles taught? Brilliant! Tiring, but brilliant!
It is why there are over 30,000 denominations.
Enjoy the quest, ask, seek, knock.
godspeed,
freedom
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