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As a Christian it is hard to understand why another Christian would not celebrate the birth of our Savior, Jesus, the one who died for us it make no sense to me
And please do not say what I want and don't want, you do not know.
I do agree with you that Christmas day is not the day of Christs birth - the 25th of December is a celebration of the Sun. To make this day into a celebration of Christ is not right, it is mixing the profane with the holy.
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The celebration of the winter solstice around December 25 was regarded as the birthday of the sun. It was a major holiday associated with gift-giving and the sacred evergreen tree.
Not only did much of Babylonian pagan worship involve the sun, but so also did the worship of each of Babylon’s successors in its own turn, first in Persia and later in both the Hellenistic world and Rome.
2Chronicles7:14-”If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
As a Christian it is hard to understand why another Christian would not celebrate the birth of our Savior, Jesus, the one who died for us it make no sense to me
And please do not say what I want and don't want, you do not know.
To understand you'd have to want to understand.
To understand you'd have to take your head out of what you've been told, and seek out what you haven't been told.
If someone wants to know, they'll find out. If they don't then they'll just keep doing with they are doing.
As a Christian it is hard to understand why another Christian would not celebrate the birth of our Savior, Jesus, the one who died for us it make no sense to me
And please do not say what I want and don't want, you do not know.
As a christian why would you celebrate the birth of Christ (which you admit is not on the 25th of December) on the winter solstice 25th December which is the birth of the sun and is a pagan holy day?
As a christian why would you celebrate the birth of Christ (which you admit is not on the 25th of December) on the winter solstice 25th December which is the birth of the sun and is a pagan holy day?
Well the winter solstice is December 21. I celebrate Jesus every day, not just on Christmas.
Nothing like co-opting a pagan holiday and making it your own. I believe that is what happened. Funny, I can't remember the last winter solstice I celebrated. The advent of DST means more to me than any solstice celebration, and is almost as good as Christmas.
We all know December 25 is not the exact date of Jesus birth, but it is a time to celebrate His birth and think about why He came, to rejoice and give Him glory. In fact these are things we should do everyday not just at Christmas. Some people put Jesus in the closet after Christmas and leave Him there till the next Christmas. Christmas is about Jesus, God coming to earth as a man to walk among us. Celebrate Jesus everyday, not just one day a year.
Great post!
I find that the Christmas season, when kept in the proper perspective, and be a blessing. Personally, I could do without some of the busyness, but I enjoy being with family, caroling, giving gifts, and enjoying what God has done for us. Of course I like the food too..
It should be a time when we not only enjoy our blessings, but think how we can be a blessing to others.. and along with the above post, we really should live this way everyday.
Well the winter solstice is December 21. I celebrate Jesus every day, not just on Christmas.
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The text of the Sacrifice takes about 15 minutes; the actual ritual will be longer, depending on the number of worshippers. There are several options for the date on which to hold the Saturnalia:
According to Julian Date (Dec. 17)
In the Julian calendar, the Saturnalia took place on Dec. 17; it was preceded by the Consualia (Dec. 15) and followed by the Opalia (Dec. 19). The celebrations typically lasted for a week (Dec. 17-23), ending just before the (late imperial) festival for Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun) on Dec. 25 (the Solstice in the pre-Julian calendar). Before the reforms of Julius Caesar, the Saturnalia and Opalia may have been on the same day (14 before the Kalends of Jan.).
According to Solstice (Dec. 21)
At one time Dec. 17, the Julian date of the Saturnalia, was the first day of Capricornus, marking the coldest season. Since the sun now enters Capricorn on Dec. 21, the Solstice, it would be appropriate to celebrate the Saturnalia on the Solstice; the seven days of celebration would then end Dec. 27.
According to Christmas Season (Dec. 25)
The week of Saturnalian celebrations fits nicely into the Christmas-New Year week, with the Saturnalia falling on Christmas day. A variant of this is: Consualia (Dec 21/solstice), Saturnalia (Dec 24/Xmas Eve - so gifts come after ritual), Opalia (Dec 26 or 27); Saturnalia celebrations (Dec 25- 31); Lesser Dionysia (Dec 31/New Year's Eve); then Roman New Year celebrations.
As a christian why would you celebrate the birth of Christ (which you admit is not on the 25th of December) on the winter solstice 25th December which is the birth of the sun and is a pagan holy day?
I could pick any one day. I could pick August, since it doesn't seem to have any other holidays...
However, by picking December 25, the Jews get a day off for Chanukah, and the blacks get a day off for Kwaanzaa (I believe both festivals run for more than one day...I know that Chanukah does).
Why does it matter which day I pick?
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