Can A 90% Bible Believer Be A John 10 Person ?? (crucified, doctrine, church)
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Does believing all the right doctrines make you a believer ?
If so where does it say that in the word ?
9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else(We are John 10 people), Jesus told this parable: 10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' 14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
I wonder if the tax collector was a follower of Jesus or a John 10 person ?
Footnote
The Pharisee probably knew the scriptures back to front but did not know who the scriptures testified of.
Does believing all the right doctrines make you a believer ?
No. Take the "keeping the Sabbath" stuff, for instance. It is clear, when you read the NT along with the old, that the "Sabbath rest" for saints under grace is ceasing from striving to obtain salvation through works. But some people have just not seen that (yet). Are they believers? If they have been regenerated, or born again, by the spirit of God because they repented of their sins and believed in Jesus as the son of God and their substitute, then yes.
We are all at different stages of understanding in our walk with God. It is not up to us to decide who is a true believer or not (even though I know we all make those kinds of judgments from time to time). I know that when I was first born again, it was sometimes hard to tell that I was! And every once in a while, when I let the devil get the upper hand, it still is. But God is my Father, I was born into His family, and I will always be His child. There is so much assurance in that!
Does believing all the right doctrines make you a believer ?
If so where does it say that in the word ?
9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else(We are John 10 people), Jesus told this parable: 10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' 14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
I wonder if the tax collector was a follower of Jesus or a John 10 person ?
Footnote
The Pharisee probably knew the scriptures back to front but did not know who the scriptures testified of.
Precisely, it is the difference between having a head knowledge of who God says He is and what His word says and having a heart knowledge of who God is and having His word embedded in our hearts, not just our minds.
Scripture tells us that even satan and all his legions believe in God and know His word and tremble, yet they are still what they are for its not about intellectual knowledge, but about the heart.
I thank God that He see's beyond all that we know, think we know, or don't know and looks straight into our hearts.
I thank God that He see's beyond all that we know, think we know, or don't know and looks straight into our hearts.
Amen, even when he looks straight into the hearts of those whose lives have been ruined by this life, there's no condemnation, He's a binder of wounds and healer of hearts to us.
In this response I'm assuming, like me, you are protestant...
I'm a born-again believer and I have to question your premise. Which Bible is the Whole Bible? Because the Catholics have more books that the Protestants don't, as does the Eastern Orthodox Church, seperate from the Catholics.
So according to them, it isyou who only believes about 90% of the Bible, because you reject the "extra" books that aren't accepted as part of the Canon by Protestants.
How do you know they aren't supposed to be included?
I myself do believe the Bible to be inspired by God, and (generally) to be the Word of God. There are some things that make me question man's influence on it though. Does that make me evil, unregenerate, a false Christian?
God makes the bible what it is, not the other way around. On an intellectual level, your "knowledge" of God will dictate how you interpret what you read about Him. That's why we must have a relationship with Him that's outside the bible - in order to know Him inside it.
Know what I mean?
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But God is my Father, I was born into His family, and I will always be His child. There is so much assurance in that!
In this response I'm assuming, like me, you are protestant...
