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And, do you try and push your religious views on them, if you do? Or, do you accept and support them for exactly who they are, without trying to "change" them?
I have a gay friend who was closeted, and now he's openly out. I don't force my religious views on him. I told him that, he being gay, would not affect our friendship.
Yes I have friends who are gay and no I would never think to try to "change" them or push my views on them! I'd like to think that I'm not so arrogant that I think they NEED changing. In my eyes, God created them, God loves them and so do I. We discuss our views and respect each other. I think that's pretty much the loving thing to do with anyone.
Share and respect. Not FORCE and try to change.
I guess what I'm saying is...
It doesn't really occur to me to even think of my friends that are gay as "my gay friend"...
Man... they're just my FRIENDS!!!
He died this past Monday of a cerebral aneurysm...he was only 59 years old...a beautiful human being he was...and I miss him terribly...his loving heart...his love for life...his compassionate nature for others' well-fare...his hugs...his smile...his passion for animals...dogs especially...and my heart aches for his companion who is left behind without him, Wayne...another precious, tender, loving, compassionate...giving individual...what a team they were at "Fifi's"...the dog grooming business they had here in my town, where honestly...at least 1/2 of our community took our dogs to be groomed...and they loved every single one of our little furry friends...and did the most wonderful job on every single one of them. Wayne is alone now...and he is torn up at the loss of his help meet...he's crushed...and at the Memorial this past Sunday, at the local Episcopal Church...he just cried...and we all cried with him...such a loss of a precious soul......I loved him...Jim...and I love Wayne, with all of my heart.
They had a hand in teaching me the need of every individual needing to feel appreciated...no matter who they are. We all need to know we are needed...loved...and appreciated.
On some mornings, when I would drop off my "Palm" named, Nuggett...Jim would stop what he was doing and come out to the front of his shop just to give me a hug, and we would chat for a moment...sometimes he would "unload" his worries...and/or concernes about certain things/people/circumstances in his life that would be heavy on his heart. He knew I loved and lived for the Lord...he loved Jesus too...so does Wayne. I'll never forget one morning when I went in to drop off Nuggett...(the economy being what it is...really bad...like just 8 months ago)...Jim and Wayne asked me to come to the back, where they groom the dogs, and they asked me if I would pray with them and for them and their business......so the three of us held hands tightly..and we bowed our heads, and closed our eyes...doggies barking...and we prayed together...and we cried together...and we embraced each other. I left them that morning feeling encouraged...loved by the Lord...loved by me...and hopeful.
For Christmas, I bought 2 beautiful Poinsettia plants for them and I gave them a little 4"x 3" Christmas card...and in it I wrote a heartfelt letter to them...letting them know how much I love and appreciated them...and how wonderful they were and how much Nuggett loved them too...Sunday...at the Memorial...Wayne told me in my ear as I was holding him tight...he said, "Jim placed the Christmas card you gave to him in his Bible......".............and he also said, "You made Jim feel good Verna...about life...and about the love of a real true Christian"........
...so...yes...I can truly say I have gay friends...beautiful, loving gay friends...but I don't let "that" determine whether or not I love them and care for them with all of my heart...because I do...and I always will...
...I love you Jim...and I pray to God you're with Him...somehow...somewhere...someday...
And, do you try and push your religious views on them, if you do? Or, do you accept and support them for exactly who they are, without trying to "change" them?
I did.
I evangelize to everyone regardless if they are gay or straight. That is what Christians are commanded to do
He died this past Monday of a cerebral aneurysm...he was only 59 years old...a beautiful human being he was...and I miss him terribly...his loving heart...his love for life...his compassionate nature for others' well-fare...his hugs...his smile...his passion for animals...dogs especially...and my heart aches for his companion who is left behind without him, Wayne...another precious, tender, loving, compassionate...giving individual...what a team they were at "Fifi's"...the dog grooming business they had here in my town, where honestly...at least 1/2 of our community took our dogs to be groomed...and they loved every single one of our little furry friends...and did the most wonderful job on every single one of them. Wayne is alone now...and he is torn up at the loss of his help meet...he's crushed...and at the Memorial this past Sunday, at the local Episcopal Church...he just cried...and we all cried with him...such a loss of a precious soul......I loved him...Jim...and I love Wayne, with all of my heart.
They had a hand in teaching me the need of every individual needing to feel appreciated...no matter who they are. We all need to know we are needed...loved...and appreciated.
On some mornings, when I would drop off my "Palm" named, Nuggett...Jim would stop what he was doing and come out to the front of his shop just to give me a hug, and we would chat for a moment...sometimes he would "unload" his worries...and/or concernes about certain things/people/circumstances in his life that would be heavy on his heart. He knew I loved and lived for the Lord...he loved Jesus too...so does Wayne. I'll never forget one morning when I went in to drop off Nuggett...(the economy being what it is...really bad...like just 8 months ago)...Jim and Wayne asked me to come to the back, where they groom the dogs, and they asked me if I would pray with them and for them and their business......so the three of us held hands tightly..and we bowed our heads, and closed our eyes...doggies barking...and we prayed together...and we cried together...and we embraced each other. I left them that morning feeling encouraged...loved by the Lord...loved by me...and hopeful.
For Christmas, I bought 2 beautiful Poinsettia plants for them and I gave them a little 4"x 3" Christmas card...and in it I wrote a heartfelt letter to them...letting them know how much I love and appreciated them...and how wonderful they were and how much Nuggett loved them too...Sunday...at the Memorial...Wayne told me in my ear as I was holding him tight...he said, "Jim placed the Christmas card you gave to him in his Bible......".............and he also said, "You made Jim feel good Verna...about life...and about the love of a real true Christian"........
...so...yes...I can truly say I have gay friends...beautiful, loving gay friends...but I don't let "that" determine whether or not I love them and care for them with all of my heart...because I do...and I always will...
...I love you Jim...and I pray to God you're with Him...somehow...somewhere...someday...
So very sad to hear about your friend Verna. May he rest in the loving arms of our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ forever. This is a beautiful and touching story about friendship and the love of Christ.
He died this past Monday of a cerebral aneurysm...he was only 59 years old...a beautiful human being he was...and I miss him terribly...his loving heart...his love for life...his compassionate nature for others' well-fare...his hugs...his smile...his passion for animals...dogs especially...and my heart aches for his companion who is left behind without him, Wayne...another precious, tender, loving, compassionate...giving individual...what a team they were at "Fifi's"...the dog grooming business they had here in my town, where honestly...at least 1/2 of our community took our dogs to be groomed...and they loved every single one of our little furry friends...and did the most wonderful job on every single one of them. Wayne is alone now...and he is torn up at the loss of his help meet...he's crushed...and at the Memorial this past Sunday, at the local Episcopal Church...he just cried...and we all cried with him...such a loss of a precious soul......I loved him...Jim...and I love Wayne, with all of my heart.
They had a hand in teaching me the need of every individual needing to feel appreciated...no matter who they are. We all need to know we are needed...loved...and appreciated.
On some mornings, when I would drop off my "Palm" named, Nuggett...Jim would stop what he was doing and come out to the front of his shop just to give me a hug, and we would chat for a moment...sometimes he would "unload" his worries...and/or concernes about certain things/people/circumstances in his life that would be heavy on his heart. He knew I loved and lived for the Lord...he loved Jesus too...so does Wayne. I'll never forget one morning when I went in to drop off Nuggett...(the economy being what it is...really bad...like just 8 months ago)...Jim and Wayne asked me to come to the back, where they groom the dogs, and they asked me if I would pray with them and for them and their business......so the three of us held hands tightly..and we bowed our heads, and closed our eyes...doggies barking...and we prayed together...and we cried together...and we embraced each other. I left them that morning feeling encouraged...loved by the Lord...loved by me...and hopeful.
For Christmas, I bought 2 beautiful Poinsettia plants for them and I gave them a little 4"x 3" Christmas card...and in it I wrote a heartfelt letter to them...letting them know how much I love and appreciated them...and how wonderful they were and how much Nuggett loved them too...Sunday...at the Memorial...Wayne told me in my ear as I was holding him tight...he said, "Jim placed the Christmas card you gave to him in his Bible......".............and he also said, "You made Jim feel good Verna...about life...and about the love of a real true Christian"........
...so...yes...I can truly say I have gay friends...beautiful, loving gay friends...but I don't let "that" determine whether or not I love them and care for them with all of my heart...because I do...and I always will...
...I love you Jim...and I pray to God you're with Him...somehow...somewhere...someday...
I feel for your friend but shouldnt we try to help anyone caught in the destructive grip of sin? I dont mean any disrepect but have any of your towns folk even tried to help his soul or did they just give up on him.
I feel for your friend but shouldnt we try to help anyone caught in the destructive grip of sin? I dont mean any disrepect but have any of your towns folk even tried to help his soul or did they just give up on him.
but how can you look past this:
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Originally Posted by Verna Perry
and he also said, "You made Jim feel good Verna...about life...and about the love of a real true Christian"........
how could anyone think that Verna (in her way) didn't help his soul?
It seems like Verna did help his soul and while I don't believe because he was gay his soul needed help.. Verna did a very good thing because she made him feel good about his life as it sounds like she had a profound impact on him as person.. on his soul.
how could anyone think that Verna (in her way) didn't help his soul?
It seems like Verna did help his soul and while I don't believe because he was gay his soul needed help.. Verna did a very good thing because she made him feel good about his life as it sounds like she had a profound impact on him as person.. on his soul.
Kudos to you Verna and sorry for your loss.
JMO of course..
Did I say that? No, I did not disrespect Verna in any way I just asked a legitamite question.
Now lets try this, Did anyone care about his soul or did they turn a blind eye to his sin?
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