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Dallas has a plan to make the city much more dense "Forward Dallas" and with its huge rail light rail system, subway from City Place to downtown, The McKinney Avenue Trolley, the TRE heavy rail to Fort Worth and upcoming street car lines, there will be many TODs in its future. So I think it's possible that all the other cities will be passed up. There's also another huge project to turn the Trinity River into sort of a "Central Park" bordered by high-rises. A new 23-story apartment building was announced last week in the Design District near there. And the 42-story Museum Tower condo building downtown is now under construction.
The Dallas-area is growing faster than anyone thought. We were projected to have 6.5 million in a few years and apparently we already have 6.7 million. We should be at 7 million shortly.
lol, you think Rail will make Dallas get more dense?? lmao. You think because the rail exists people will leave their nice suburban home to be packed in like sardines because the rail is their to take them to the suburb?? But if they leave the suburbs why would the rail to the suburbs matter??
LOL the rail will only make the suburbs more popular. people can live in the burbs, work in the burbs and then take the rail to Dallas to catch a cowboys game. oh whoops, the cowboys also play in the burbs.
How is the rail helping again??
LMAO jobs attract people not any rail.
The NE built rail because of their dense population. Their dense population was not brought about by no darn rail.
I don't know why people think that "oh dense cities have rail, if we build rail we will be dense too."
I dont see why it matters. Is Dallas all of the sudden a different city because it has more people in its city proper than San Diego now? Is San Diego all of the sudden different?
Dallas has a plan to make the city much more dense "Forward Dallas" and with its huge rail light rail system, subway from City Place to downtown, The McKinney Avenue Trolley, the TRE heavy rail to Fort Worth and upcoming street car lines, there will be many TODs in its future. So I think it's possible that all the other cities will be passed up. There's also another huge project to turn the Trinity River into sort of a "Central Park" bordered by high-rises. A new 23-story apartment building was announced last week in the Design District near there. And the 42-story Museum Tower condo building downtown is now under construction.
The Dallas-area is growing faster than anyone thought. We were projected to have 6.5 million in a few years and apparently we already have 6.7 million. We should be at 7 million shortly.
how many of those are selling? last I heard, the Victory Park development has been very poor to sell or even rent out; some of the ground-level retail they had even shut down because they couldn't make a buck. And downtown Dallas is sitting on about 25% office vacancy rate. The Museum Tower condo got bought over by some trades union's retirement account...for their retirees sake, hopefully they can turn a profit in that project. If people are building that much in Dallas, I really am surprised where they're getting the funding to do it. I saw the whole Victory area and towers north of it come up in the past 5-10 years and it's been a good lot of infill. But how much more of this sort of tower development can Dallas handle? Even so, all those towers haven't lent themselves to a more animated street, more dense and walkable city environment... perhaps because of the confusing, spaghetti-like street setup in that area...at least downtown proper is on a grid, even if that grid kind of turns on an axis.
Most of Dallas-area's population boom seems to be happening in its suburbs, just like everyone else in America...people seem drawn to their own little piece of land, their own single-family home with 2-car garage, and white picket fence. And most of that kind of development will never be transit-friendly. Which is why Dallas-area is also spending billions in new highways (double-decking I-635, for one; wanting to build a tollway through the new Trinity park, for another).
Added bonus for Dallas-area (and Texas, in general) is that land is cheap and plentiful, highways are in better shape than other parts of the country, and building homes is cheap too thanks to a ton of illegal (and legal) local help with hardly any union presence that might seek livable wages or other standards. Tack in the fact that Texas actively scouts companies to relocate jobs to the state. Eventually, this party has to end, and it will. People have to pay higher property taxes in Texas because Texas has lower taxes on corporates so people will wise up to this. People will also pay through their noses to fill their vehicles weekly and pay in the form of longer-lasting commutes, not to mention the upsurge in toll-road construction in Texas (20 years ago, there were barely a handful).
go to google maps, type in Lyttle Texas (it is on the southern edge of Bexar). Then do directions from there to Jarrell Texas and see what you get. In fact there is more to Williamson county past Jarrel, but I can't think of another city past it.
But yeah from Bexar to Williamson include 150 miles
lol, you think Rail will make Dallas get more dense?? lmao. You think because the rail exists people will leave their nice suburban home to be packed in like sardines because the rail is their to take them to the suburb?? But if they leave the suburbs why would the rail to the suburbs matter??
LOL the rail will only make the suburbs more popular. people can live in the burbs, work in the burbs and then take the rail to Dallas to catch a cowboys game. oh whoops, the cowboys also play in the burbs.
How is the rail helping again??
LMAO jobs attract people not any rail.
The NE built rail because of their dense population. Their dense population was not brought about by no darn rail.
I don't know why people think that "oh dense cities have rail, if we build rail we will be dense too."
in fact, it can be shown that building new rail lines out to the exurbs only enables more sprawl, as it makes it easy for people to live out in the furthest reaches of Collin County and still simply hop on a train to get to work...
but, OTOH, with a lot more people living in the ritzy parts of Dallas's near-downtown (the Oak Cliff, Oaklawn, Uptown, Deep Ellum, etc. areas), a trolley line might add to the urbanity... trolleys are all the rage in a bunch of cities these days and the FTA is funding new starts everywhere, not just Dallas (Salt Lake City, Seattle, etc.). Of course, buses serve the same purpose of a people-mover but at a much much less cost...but not a lot of neo-urbanists want to be seen riding a bus! lol
Why the derision Houston people - jealous because you have one little rail line of a few miles while Dallas has almost 100 miles? And you totally side-stepped the Forward Dallas plan...
Can you stop discussing San Antonio's population? This thread is about only Dallas's population and whether it will surpass the others or fail
I see Dallas hitting 2 million in 10 years and surpassing all those cities. But to me, it really doesn't matter. What matters is what sort of QOL the city/area will provide when there are that many people crammed-in, and at what price. It may be that a lot fewer incremental people will be willing and able to pay that price...
Have you ever been to this city to come up with that conclusion?
I highly doubt!
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