Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
And Im just scratching the surface. Now I know its hard for LA folks to comprehend what a dynamic downtown is, but hopefully this will give you a slight clue.
Who cares if LA doesn't have a dynamic downtown? There's still a whole heck of a lot more to do in LA than Chicago, and LA is a lot more interesting. What is there in Chicago outside of the downtown area? NOTHING! Los Angeles has a lot of great neighborhoods to see (Los Feliz, Hollywood, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Venice Beach, Brentwood, Westwood). Granted Santa Monica, Beverly Hills and West Hollywood are their own cities, they are all surrounded by LA. I'm not the biggest fan of LA but it's a lot more interesting than Chicago.
Although I love downtown San Francisco, I disagree with those who diminish LA because of it's downtown. IMO, there's so much more life to great cities outside of their downtowns, which is why Chicago has so little to offer.
HAHAHAHAHA...now that's funny. the "so-called" Magnificant Mile the best shopping corridor in the U.S. That's so ridiculous it's hysterical.
As your list proves - not really much to do in Chicago - it's a BIG midwestern town...
You get laughed off the Chicago boards so now you need to come here and start crap? Good grief.
And yes, the MagMile is a AWESOME shopping area. It probably is the most concentrated shopping district in the United States. You can find anything from Sony to Burberry to Ermenegildo Zegna to Ralph Lauren to Rolex to Cartier to Old Navy and everything inbetween.
You get laughed off the Chicago boards so now you need to come here and start crap? Good grief.
And yes, the MagMile is a AWESOME shopping area. It probably is the most concentrated shopping district in the United States. You can find anything from Sony to Burberry to Ermenegildo Zegna to Ralph Lauren to Rolex to Cartier to Old Navy and everything inbetween.
The Magnificent Mile - Feel Magnificent (http://www.themagnificentmile.com/PhotoGallery/Default.cfm - broken link)
Well, it gets tiring battling with a bunch of Chicagoans who are pee-green with envy over those who live on the coasts. I don't feel I got laughed off. Rather attacked for saying Chicago doesn't feel very big to me. There's little point in sitting on a board arguing with a bunch of people who seem to fight so hard to prove their city is worthy of more than it is. Such a shame.
You can think whatever you want about Chicago and the Magnificant Mile, but both are BORING! The Magnificant Mile is essentially the Mall of America outdoors. I remember being shocked when I first saw it after hearing it called "the Magnificant Mile"....because it isn't all that....in the least.
Good grief...are Chicagoans THAT insecure about where they live????
Dont bother the children with facts, it'll just get their panties in a bunch more than they already are. San Fran is a FAR SUPERIOR city compared to LA. Its not even a contest.
Then they have to get all stupid and mention Chicago everytime I pop in and say how much better San Fran is. Chicago draws more visitors than most cities in the USA, and its apparent these people have never even been to Chicago or else they wouldnt have anything to say. Whats best is how they bring up what rappers came out of Chicago. LOL WHO FRIGGIN CARES? Is a city's greatness measured by the quality of rappers that come out of it? Its really sad if Angelinos measure a city by those standards. But then again, I wouldnt expect anything else from a few of these posters.
I've never been to San Francisco (though I would love to, and I will someday). But I have to say, despite all the Hollywood wannabe's, I love L.A. There's just something about it. For me, its an amazing place where I've had awesome experiences and hope to someday live there, even with all the L.A. bashing I constantly see.
ur right. so many LA bashers on this site and its mainly coming from steve-o,futurecop,downtown,66nexus,bobbydigital
ur right. so many LA bashers on this site and its mainly coming from steve-o,futurecop,downtown,66nexus,bobbydigital
I was OBSESSED with LA in college (University of Minnesota). I mean obsessed - I had tons of books on LA and vowed I would move there after school, without ever having visited there. I went for a week in my last year of school, and the desire to move there quickly evaporated. Not to say I don't like LA, because I do, but I learned quickly it isn't for me. I am going back, for the first time in over 10 years, in two weeks and I'm looking forward to it. It's still a great and interesting place.
With San Francisco, I knew next to nothing about it before I first visited here. I immediately fell in love with it and vowed I'd move here. Three years and several visits later, I made the move. I'm so glad I did. I just love this city.
"San Francisco is a city where people are never more abroad than when they are at home" - Benjamin F.Taylor
"One day if I do go to heaven I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco."
"The Bay Area is so beautiful, I hesitate to preach about heaven while I'm here." - Billy Graham
"I love this city. If I'm elected, I will move the White House to San Francisco. I went to Fisherman's Wharf and they even let me into Allioto`s. It may be Baghdad by the Bay to you, but to me it's Resurrection City." - Robert Kennedy
"I'm proud to have been a Yankee. But I have found more happiness and contentment since I came back home to San Francisco than any man has a right to deserve. This is the friendliest city in the world." - Joe DiMaggio, at his fiftieth birthday party.
"You are fortunate to live here. If I were your President, I would levy a tax on you for living in San Francisco!" - Mikhail Gorbachev
"Your city is remarkable not only for its beauty. It is also, of all the cities in the United States, the one whose name, the world over, conjures up the most visions and more than any other, incites one to dream. - Georges Pompidou
"East is East, and West is San Francisco." - O. Henry
"San Francisco has only one drawback. ''Tis hard to leave." - Rudyard Kipling
"No city invites the heart to come to life as San Francisco does. Arrival in San Francisco is an experience in living" - William Saroyan
"San Francisco itself is art, above all literary art. Every block is a short story, every hill a novel. Every home a poem, every dweller within immortal. That is the whole truth." - William Saroyan
"What fetched me instantly (and thousands of other newcomers with me) was the subtle but unmistakable sense of escape from the United States."
- H.L. Mencken
"It's an odd thing, but anyone who disappears is said to be seen in San Francisco. It must be a delightful city and possess all the attractions of the next world" - Oscar Wilde
"Leaving San Francisco is like saying goodbye to an old sweetheart. You want to linger as long as possible." - Walter Cronkite
"I have always been rather better treated in San Francisco than I actually deserved." - Mark Twain
"It's simply a very romantic place. Just one look at any of those streets, and you couldn't be anywhere else -- it's so beautiful, and there's that location, and the sense of the free spirit. Who couldn't become ravenous in such a place?" - Julia Child
"We're crazy about this city. First time we came here, we walked the streets all day, all over town and nobody hassled us. People smiled, friendly-like, and we knew we could live here. We'd like to keep our place in Greenwich Village and have an apartment here, God and the Immigration Service willing. Los Angeles? That's just a big parking lot where you buy a hamburger for the trip to San Francisco." - John Lennon (when asked, with Yoko, at his side how they liked their time in San Francisco)
"Isn't it nice that people who prefer Los Angeles to San Francisco live there?" - Herb Caen
“There may not be a Heaven, but there is a San Francisco." - Ashleigh Brilliant
"If you're alive, you can't be bored in San Francisco. If you're not alive, San Francisco will bring you to life.” - William Saroyan
Bottom line is that San Fran is way better than LA, IMO. Live with it. Try not to cry yourself to sleep tonight knowing that someone out there cannot stand LA.
America's 30 Most Visited Cities
1. Las Vegas, Nev.
38.9 million visitors; 40 million rooms sold. Total weighted score: 4.48 2. Los Angeles, Calif. 58.6 million (25.4 million overnight + 33.2 estimated day visitors); 25.5 million rooms sold; score: 4.22 3. Orlando, Fla.
47.8 million visitors; 27.2 million rooms sold; score: 3.90
4. New York City, N.Y. 44 million visitors; 23.9 million rooms sold; score: 3.52 5. Chicago, Ill.
41.3 million (2005); 24.8 million rooms sold; score 3.47
6. Washington, D.C. metro area
36.9 million; 22.8 million rooms; score: 3.15
7. Atlanta, Ga.
37 million visitors; 21.5 million rooms sold; score: 3.05
8. San Diego, Calif.
32.2 million visitors (2005); 14.2 million rooms sold; score: 2.33
9. Houston, TX
31 million; 14.5 million rooms sold; score: 2.31
10. Dallas, TX
22.3 million visitors (2005); 15.9 million rooms sold; score: 2.05
11. Philadelphia, Pa.
27.7 million (2005); 10.2 million rooms sold; score: 1.86
12. Phoenix, Ariz.
21.7 million (12 million overnight plus 9.7 estimated day visitors); 13.1 million rooms sold; score: 1.75
13. Anaheim, Calif.
18.4 million visitors; 13.9 million rooms sold; score 1.61 (tie) 13. San Francisco, Calif. 15.8 million visitors; 13.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.61 (tie)
13. Miami, Fla.
19.7 million (11.6 million overnight + 8.1 estimated day visitors): 11.2 million rooms sold; score: 1.61 (tie)
16. Boston, Mass.
17.6 million (2005); 11.7 million rooms sold; score 1.56
17. San Antonio, TX
20 million; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.41
18. St. Louis, Mo.
20.3 million visitors; 7.9 million rooms sold; score: 1.39
19. Tampa Bay, Fla.
16.9 million visitors; 9.6 million rooms sold; score: 1.38
20. Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn.
18.3 million visitors; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.34
21. Seattle, Wash.
15.7 million (9.4 million overnight visitors + 6.3 estimated day visitors); 9.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.32
22. Indianapolis, Ind.
21.7 million visitors (2005); 6 million rooms sold; score: 1.31
23. Detroit, Mich.
15.9 million visitors; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.24
24. Austin, TX
19 million visitors; 6.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.23
25. Denver, Colo.
14.5 million (11.7 million overnight visitors + 2.8 estimated day visitors); 8.7 million rooms sold; score: 1.22
26. Charlotte, N.C.
16.6 million visitors (2005); 6.9 million rooms sold; score: 1.17
27. Nashville, Tenn.
13.5 million (10.5 million overnight visitors + 3 million estimated day visitors); 8 million rooms sold; score: 1.12 (tie)
27. Kansas City, Mo.-Kan.
16.5 million visitors; 6.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.12 (tie)
29. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
12.3 million (10.4 million overnight visitors + 1.9 estimated day visitors); 7 million rooms sold; score: 1.00
30. Baltimore, Md.
12 million visitors; 6.6 million rooms sold; score: 0.99
1. Las Vegas, Nev.
38.9 million visitors; 40 million rooms sold. Total weighted score: 4.48 2. Los Angeles, Calif. 58.6 million (25.4 million overnight + 33.2 estimated day visitors); 25.5 million rooms sold; score: 4.22 3. Orlando, Fla.
47.8 million visitors; 27.2 million rooms sold; score: 3.90
4. New York City, N.Y. 44 million visitors; 23.9 million rooms sold; score: 3.52 5. Chicago, Ill.
41.3 million (2005); 24.8 million rooms sold; score 3.47
6. Washington, D.C. metro area
36.9 million; 22.8 million rooms; score: 3.15
7. Atlanta, Ga.
37 million visitors; 21.5 million rooms sold; score: 3.05
8. San Diego, Calif.
32.2 million visitors (2005); 14.2 million rooms sold; score: 2.33
9. Houston, TX
31 million; 14.5 million rooms sold; score: 2.31
10. Dallas, TX
22.3 million visitors (2005); 15.9 million rooms sold; score: 2.05
11. Philadelphia, Pa.
27.7 million (2005); 10.2 million rooms sold; score: 1.86
12. Phoenix, Ariz.
21.7 million (12 million overnight plus 9.7 estimated day visitors); 13.1 million rooms sold; score: 1.75
13. Anaheim, Calif.
18.4 million visitors; 13.9 million rooms sold; score 1.61 (tie) 13. San Francisco, Calif. 15.8 million visitors; 13.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.61 (tie)
13. Miami, Fla.
19.7 million (11.6 million overnight + 8.1 estimated day visitors): 11.2 million rooms sold; score: 1.61 (tie)
16. Boston, Mass.
17.6 million (2005); 11.7 million rooms sold; score 1.56
17. San Antonio, TX
20 million; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.41
18. St. Louis, Mo.
20.3 million visitors; 7.9 million rooms sold; score: 1.39
19. Tampa Bay, Fla.
16.9 million visitors; 9.6 million rooms sold; score: 1.38
20. Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn.
18.3 million visitors; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.34
21. Seattle, Wash.
15.7 million (9.4 million overnight visitors + 6.3 estimated day visitors); 9.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.32
22. Indianapolis, Ind.
21.7 million visitors (2005); 6 million rooms sold; score: 1.31
23. Detroit, Mich.
15.9 million visitors; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.24
24. Austin, TX
19 million visitors; 6.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.23
25. Denver, Colo.
14.5 million (11.7 million overnight visitors + 2.8 estimated day visitors); 8.7 million rooms sold; score: 1.22
26. Charlotte, N.C.
16.6 million visitors (2005); 6.9 million rooms sold; score: 1.17
27. Nashville, Tenn.
13.5 million (10.5 million overnight visitors + 3 million estimated day visitors); 8 million rooms sold; score: 1.12 (tie)
27. Kansas City, Mo.-Kan.
16.5 million visitors; 6.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.12 (tie)
29. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
12.3 million (10.4 million overnight visitors + 1.9 estimated day visitors); 7 million rooms sold; score: 1.00
30. Baltimore, Md.
12 million visitors; 6.6 million rooms sold; score: 0.99
lol the stats dont lie. 58 million compared to 15 million
LA >>>>>>>san fran
orlandoooooooooo 47 million
awww@ny
i didnt mention chicago bcuz nobody cares
1. Different sources give different statistics.
2. These don't reflect why people visit a place. Do you really think more people choose to visit cities like Houston, Dallas and Phoenix over San Francisco? Doubtful. Most likely they are up there as a result of business/family travel...not tourism.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Good grief.
San Fran is a FAR SUPERIOR city compared to LA. Its not even a contest. 
