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Old 10-20-2012, 11:47 PM
 
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How much cheaper is Chicago compared to NYC? I see diff figures. Discussing cities and their suburbs, particularly interested in how Northern NJ compares to Chi burbs. While some salaries can be higher in the NYC area, most are not significantly higher to cover the premium COL. While I understand why NYC is very expensive, what's more interesting to me is that why Chi is cheaper than all the other comparable American cities. What are the reasons of its affordability, besides harsher weather and non coastal location?
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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Single family home
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara $660,000
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont $552,600
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos $379,100
New York-Northern NJ-Long Island $377,600
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria $367,000
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy $362,100
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana $296,800
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue $290,700
Denver-Aurora $260,700
Baltimore-Towson $244,000
Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton $233,900
Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford $226,300
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington $219,700
Austin-Round Rock $218,700
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River $217,500
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Miami Beach $206,700
Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis $189,700
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet $187,700
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario $183,000
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington $174,500
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville $170,200
Houston-Baytown-Sugar Land $168,300
New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner $165,100
Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington $163,000
San Antonio $162,800
Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro $159,800
Kansas City $148,400
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $148,400
Columbus $142,100
Orlando $136,100
Cincinnati-Middletown $135,400
St Louis $134,700
Las Vegas-Paradise $130,700
Memphis $123,500
Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor $103,900
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta $103,200
Detroit-Warren-Livonia $60,200

http://www.realtor.org/sites/default...2012-08-09.pdf

Chicago is a bargain.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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What are the reasons of its affordability, besides harsher weather and non coastal location?
It has nothing to do with weather or location, Denver and Austin have neither but are still more expensive than Chicago. NYC is a sellers market as in it has less than 6 months of supply for pent up high demand, this raises your real estate prices up the nose. Chicago is a buyers market, it has more supply than demand which keeps its real estate prices lower.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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but chi was cheap b4 the downturn too, and it doesn't make sense that lower tier cities like denver, austin and portland are more expensive, esp portland with its less than mediocre employment prospects
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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but chi was cheap b4 the downturn too, and it doesn't make sense that lower tier cities like denver, austin and portland are more expensive, esp portland with its less than mediocre employment prospects
Austin, Denver, and Portland are sellers markets because they have less than 6 months supply of real estate. Chicago has more than 6 months supply so its a buyers market and not as much demand so it's prices stay lower. The downturn in the market just made all cities cheaper because of foreclosures, etc.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:00 PM
 
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i dont kno bout other places, but portland is not a seller's market
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:58 AM
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Chicago is a bargain.
First, that's for single family homes. Most of NYC's housing stock is rowhouses or apartment buildings though there are some single family homes. But if the OP is looking at the city itself ranking by single family homes might not be relevant. Also, Chicago's prices may be dragged down by declining neighborhoods few would want to move into if they had the choice.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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^but all major cities have declining nhoods you wouldn't wanna move to, esp nyc/nj
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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but chi was cheap b4 the downturn too, and it doesn't make sense that lower tier cities like denver, austin and portland are more expensive, esp portland with its less than mediocre employment prospects
When comparing apples to apples, ie. similar neighborhoods, Chicago is more expensive than Denver, Austin, and Portland. Only on City Data, is insanely high housing costs seen as a positive.

I do a lot of investing in real estate, and consider myself to be quite educated in most major markets, and the following metros are the only ones I have seen that are clearly more expensive than Chicago:

New York
San Fran
Boston
DC
Los Angeles
San Diego

Seattle may have a higher average price market wide, but that is because Chicago has a much higher percentage of depressed/dilapidated neighborhoods, where Seattle is pretty middle class metro wide, or at least much more so than Chicago. However, like a stated, when comparing apples to apples the above list are the only markets that are across the board more expensive.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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When comparing apples to apples, ie. similar neighborhoods, Chicago is more expensive than Denver, Austin, and Portland. Only on City Data, is insanely high housing costs seen as a positive.

I do a lot of investing in real estate, and consider myself to be quite educated in most major markets, and the following metros are the only ones I have seen that are clearly more expensive than Chicago:

New York
San Fran
Boston
DC
Los Angeles
San Diego

Seattle may have a higher average price market wide, but that is because Chicago has a much higher percentage of depressed/dilapidated neighborhoods, where Seattle is pretty middle class metro wide, or at least much more so than Chicago. However, like a stated, when comparing apples to apples the above list are the only markets that are across the board more expensive.
o i hear ya
well still then Chicago is the cheapest of the cities of its class like the ones you listed, like i said seattle, austin and denver are lower tier, and chi is also a lil cheaper than philly
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