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Old 04-20-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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Depends. For me, natural and architectural beauty can be equally as important when talking about beauty and seeing as how Miami has built itself into a huge metro filled with highrises, homes, etc., architectural beauty shouldn't be overlooked, especially if it's trying to integrate with natural scenery. Also, South Florida's sections of natural beauty aren't that spectacular outside of the coastal areas. With the exception of the Everglade swamp areas, most of the inland areas look like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...3,77.23,,0,5.7

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...11.59,,0,-2.15

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...125.76,,0,5.36

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...272.52,,0,4.94

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...183.75,,0,2.04

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...,,0,10.56&z=10
Natural beauty goes beyond what you see on the surface. There's the coral reefs, and some of the clearest diving water in the US. This can't be found in many US cities. In Miami case, the rarity of its scenary, supercedes it's lack of diversity.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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Unless someone can suggest a better seeding criteria
Perhaps another seeding variation could be based on the 64 MSAs with the fastest current absolute growth. I like the idea that seeding is based on how well a city is currently performing while still factoring in the inherent advantages of history and resources (kind of like the real NCAA tournament).

These are the 66 MSAs with the largest overall population growth from 2000-2010 based on US Census numbers (I included two extra cause I forgot if you were using Riverside and San Jose, which are practically LA and San Francisco) Seems like it changes things up just enough to be interesting.

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Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA
Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL
Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC
Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL
Austin-Round Rock, TX
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA
San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO/1
Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI
Sacramento--Roseville--Arden-Arcade, CA
Raleigh, NC
Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA
Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN
San Diego-Carlsbad, CA
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD
Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN
Columbus, OH
Jacksonville, FL
San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA
McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX
Kansas City, MO-KS
Bakersfield, CA
Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL
Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH
Oklahoma City, OK
Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD
Albuquerque, NM
Richmond, VA
Boise City, ID
Provo-Orem, UT
Salt Lake City, UT
Tucson, AZ
Fresno, CA
Stockton-Lodi, CA
El Paso, TX
Columbia, SC
Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN
Lakeland-Winter Haven, FL
Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR-MO
Charleston-North Charleston, SC
Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN
St. Louis, MO-IL
North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, FL
Ogden-Clearfield, UT
Memphis, TN-MS-AR
Colorado Springs, CO
Myrtle Beach-Conway-North Myrtle Beach, SC-NC
Port St. Lucie, FL
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA
Greenville-Anderson-Mauldin, SC
Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA
Deltona-Daytona Beach-Ormond Beach, FL
Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC
Baton Rouge, LA
Knoxville, TN
Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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^^Of course you lost some significant metros in this process, including Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Buffalo.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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Natural beauty goes beyond what you see on the surface. There's the coral reefs, and some of the clearest diving water in the US. This can't be found in many US cities. In Miami case, the rarity of its scenary, supercedes it's lack of diversity.
Yes, I know that. But that's why I was talking about a lot of inland Florida. Miami's coastal areas are great, but the rest of the non-coastal areas aren't that special. Inland Florida is more exposed than a coral reef.
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Old 04-24-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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...or adding STREET VIEWS! This might've helped NYC win the Beauty contest against Miami/Fort Lauderdale. All I would have to do is post a Street View of one of SFL's upper middle-class Generica blocks and compare them to a working-class nabe of NYC that's filled with Brownstone row homes, trees, nearby stores, and still has more charm than many of South Florida's wealthy gated communities.
Agreed. People must have been voting on natural beauty, in which Miami would definitely win.
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