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View Poll Results: Which city is more cultural and iconic?
Chicago 71 48.63%
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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white and Hispanic can be one and the same. Some Hispanics claim only Hispanic, some only white, some white and Hispanic. By saying the number applies only to white people who have no Hispanic origin is a bit silly. The number stands.

(b) Hispanics may be of any race, so also are included in applicable race categories

Also ... from the census


The largest growth in the proportion
of the non-Hispanic White
alone population living inside the
largest principal city of a metro
area was seen in Los Angeles (up
1.9 percentage points), Washington
(up 1.8 percentage points), and
San Francisco (up 1.6 percentage
points).

anyway, good luck all of you ....I'm glad this is just a message board and not a place people come for serious information

https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/...c2010br-05.pdf
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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South San Francisco is actually in San Mateo County. San Francisco IS the only city in San Francisco County. They are the same exact things.

San Francisco 311 : Board of Supervisors - Does San Francisco have a City Council? - 400116
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The City and County of San Francisco is a consolidated city-county, a status it has had since 1856. It is the only such consolidation in California. The mayor is also the county executive and the county board of supervisors acts as the city council
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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San Francisco is the only city in San Francisco county, what are you talking about????



Report me all you want bro..
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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Hahahaha this must be a troll job after the rep he left me:



A+ effort.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Hahahaha this must be a troll job after the rep he left me:



A+ effort.
Yeah, ridiculous. Funny because the Wikipedia source is actually from the San Francisco Government's website here:
San Francisco 311 : Board of Supervisors - Does San Francisco have a City Council? - 400116

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The City and County of San Francisco is a consolidated city-county, a status it has had since 1856. It is the only such consolidation in California. The mayor is also the county executive and the county board of supervisors acts as the city council.
Here is the phone number to the City Government if anybody wants to call and ask themselves:
(415) 701-2311
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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well....ok. The Census has entries for San Francisco City and County (separately)

but that doesn't really matter at all for the argument, because in that case, SF county/city compared to Chicago (city) there ARE far more white people in SF

Chicago (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

San Francisco County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Why they are keeping the 2010 entries for SF city, and the county estimates in a separate location I have no idea.

But anyway, yes, SF is far more white than the city of Chicago 54% vs. 45%

and it has been noted by the census that the white population in SF is in the top 3 fastest growing in the nation.

If you really want to cut all Hispanic whites out, then there is still a 10 point difference.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Yeah, ridiculous. Funny because the Wikipedia source is actually from the San Francisco Government's website here:
San Francisco 311 : Board of Supervisors - Does San Francisco have a City Council? - 400116

Here is the phone number to the City Government if anybody wants to call and ask themselves:
(415) 701-2311
funny, but I'd be really interested to know why the census is maintaining separate profiles for each, or if their programs aren't sophisticated enough to have had a separate category for city/county consolidations. It's very odd as their city of SF page has 2010/2012 but the county page has estimates for 2013.

I'd love an explanation for that.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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As far as diversity and culture goes, here are some stats on foreign population from the last time this cityvcity was done:

Foreign Born Population, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 2,159,193...29.3%
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI 1,696,418...17.3%

Moved from a Foreign Country, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 80,824
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 53,953

Born in the UK, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 39,161
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 15,235

Born in France, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 12,520
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 4,033

Born in Germany, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 26,298
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 24,318

Born in Italy, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 24,588
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 8,184

Born in Portugal, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 10,478
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 93

Born in Russia, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 23,415
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 14,074

Born in Poland, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 151,490
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 6,612

Born in China, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 319,278
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 57,831

Born in Taiwan, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 54,698
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 8,436

Born in Japan, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 30,953
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 8,405

Born in Korea, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 53,862
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 42,132

Born in India, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 148,531
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 116,395

Born in Iran, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 34,641
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 6,862

Born in the Phillipines, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 247,436
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 76,780

Born in Vietnam, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 158,648
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 16,477

Born in Israel, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 9,171
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 5,818

Born in Africa, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 42,409
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 36,722

Born in Oceania, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 26,850
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 3,114

Born in Cuba, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 10,257
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 2,749

Born in Jamaica, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 8,732
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 2,984

Born in Mexico, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 695,131
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 538,820

Born in El Salvador, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 61,578
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 9,944

Born in Brazil, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 10,016
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 4,612

Born in Colombia, 2008
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 11,473
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 4,473

Born in Canada, 2008
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 36,926
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 17,246



Cities(pop 65,000+) by percentage of foreign born residents(30%+), 2007
Daly City, CA 53.1% San Francisco
Milpitas, CA 51.3% San Francisco
Union City, CA 45.2% San Francisco
Sunnyvale, CA 43.6% San Francisco
Fremont, CA 43.1% San Francisco
Santa Clara, CA 41.4% San Francisco
San Jose, CA 39.8% San Francisco
Mountain View, CA 38.3% San Francisco
San Leandro, CA 37.8% San Francisco
San Francisco, CA 35.3% San Francisco
San Mateo, CA 35.2% San Francisco
Hayward, CA 35.0% San Francisco
Richmond, CA 33.1% San Francisco
Alameda, CA 31.5% San Francisco
Redwood City, CA 30.2% San Francisco

By contrast, the entire Chicago CSA only has 2 cities with over 65,000 people that is more than 30% foreign born
Cicero, IL 43.3% Chicago
Skokie, IL 35.4% Chicago
Waukegan, IL 33.8% Chicago
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:49 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Gotta say, this is awesome!
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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funny, but I'd be really interested to know why the census is maintaining separate profiles for each, or if their programs aren't sophisticated enough to have had a separate category for city/county consolidations. It's very odd as their city of SF page has 2010/2012 but the county page has estimates for 2013.

I'd love an explanation for that.
You are complicating this too much. They are the same things and defined by the state of California as both city AND county. Since they exist at two separate geographical levels, both are reported by the Census. It's no different than the Census reporting "Kings County, NY" and "Brooklyn borough, NY." They are the same exact things but reported at two different geographical levels for the same thing.

You can call the Census department up yourself and ask them yourself if you really want:
Contacts - About Us - U.S. Census Bureau
301-763-INFO (4636) or 800-923-8282
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