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Long Island City (LIC) is a neighborhood in western queens that has seen tremendous growth over the last 10-15 years. If you drive into manhattan from LaGuardia it’s a noticeable second skyline. The new development is mostly high rises and many of the residents are professionals priced out of manhattan. It has really good public transportation with maybe 8-10 stations on various lines. You can look at various maps as to its borders, but the boundaries feel different on the ground. Vernon Jackson on the 7 up to Broadway on the N/W all felt like LIC to me. From at least Maybe someone from NYC can give more precise boundaries.
South Park in Los Angeles has also seen tremendous growth with a mix of low, mid, and high rise. Lately mostly the latter. LA Live and Staples are in South Park along with the LA Convention center and Microsoft Theater. It has only one rail station but is walking distance to a couple more.
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- Urbanity
- Shopping
- Restaurants
- Entertainment
- Transportation
- Value
- Future Prospects/growth
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I live in LIC and have never been to South Park but I'll take a guess.
-Urbanity: edge to LIC
-Shopping: South Park
-Restaurants: Not sure. LIC's restaurant scene is growing fast though
-Entertainment: South Park hands down
-Transportation: LIC hands down
-Value: edge to South Park, looks like rentals are a little bit cheaper
-Future Prospects/Growth: Don't think I can comment without visiting LA first. LIC has a lot of untapped commercial potential though.
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Long Island City (LIC) is a neighborhood in western queens that has seen tremendous growth over the last 10-15 years. If you drive into manhattan from LaGuardia it’s a noticeable second skyline. The new development is mostly high rises and many of the residents are professionals priced out of manhattan. It has really good public transportation with maybe 8-10 stations on various lines. You can look at various maps as to its borders, but the boundaries feel different on the ground. Vernon Jackson on the 7 up to Broadway on the N/W all felt like LIC to me. From at least Maybe someone from NYC can give more precise boundaries.
South Park in Los Angeles has also seen tremendous growth with a mix of low, mid, and high rise. Lately mostly the latter. LA Live and Staples are in South Park along with the LA Convention center and Microsoft Theater. It has only one rail station but is walking distance to a couple more.
Compare based on:
- Urbanity
- Shopping
- Restaurants
- Entertainment
- Transportation
- Value
- Future Prospects/growth
- Other
There's not an official northern border of LIC but many would argue it lies somewhere between the 36th Ave and Broadway N/W train stations.
For all it’s growth LIC still feels sort of empty. DUMBO definitely has more foot traffic and things going on!
LIC feels both empty and soulless. I couldn't imagine choosing LIC, when I could have so many better city neighborhoods at that price range. LIC, to my mind, is a suburbanite's idea of city living. I say this as someone who lived just a few blocks east, in Sunnyside.
For all it’s growth LIC still feels sort of empty. DUMBO definitely has more foot traffic and things going on!
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LIC feels both empty and soulless. I couldn't imagine choosing LIC, when I could have so many better city neighborhoods at that price range. LIC, to my mind, is a suburbanite's idea of city living. I say this as someone who lived just a few blocks east, in Sunnyside.
These 2 beat me to it. LIC looks like it has a lot going on, but it really doesn’t. It was better with 5 pointz. I honestly think that LIC has to be one of the blandest neighborhoods in NYC. The only areas of interest that I can think of are that strip of Vernon Blvd and the waterfront park + views.
But I can understand people living in LIC for the convenience. The mass transit coverage is great, and the location is very centralized. Imagine working in Midtown and being a 5-minute ride away. And being so close and accessible to not only most of Manhattan, but also places like Astoria, Greenpoint+Williamsburg, Jackson Heights, etc having the 7, E, F, M, G, N, R, and W trains you can go almost anywhere very easily except maybe The Bronx. And I think the views are probably the best in all of NYC. It was only a matter of time until the area exploded with high rises. I just wish there was more... stuff to do. I do think LIC has an insane amount of potential that is has yet to reach. I do feel optimistic that it will improve in the areas that it is lacking. It still has a lot of growing to do.
I have been to South Park when I was in LA, but i didn’t know the name of the area until now. I’ve been to Staples Center and I remember passing by the convention center. The area did not really stand out to me at all other than the Staples Center tbh. LA Live was not complete when I was there though. Maybe it would be more interesting today.
I would say that LIC wins in transit and urbanity
South Park with entertainment and shopping since LIC has none of that, and South Park has Staples Center and LA Live.
Restaurants: IDK. This might be the one other spot where LIC does decent. LIC does actually have some good food along Vernon, and also farther east of Court Square by LaGuardia Community College. I’ve never eaten at a restaurant in South Park though, so I can’t say.
Future: I think LIC still has yet to tap into its potential. I’m optimistic about the neighborhood. I think it will become a much more interesting place in the future. This is the only time I am looking forward to gentrification, since there is nothing to push out in the first place (except for Five Pointz, which already happened a few years ago )
South Park I can see becoming a big tourist destination. Which is interesting because when I went to LA I was advised by locals (multiple people) to not even bother with Downtown LA. I still ended up there anyway though. I imagine that people don’t say that as much anymore.
These 2 beat me to it. LIC looks like it has a lot going on, but it really doesn’t. It was better with 5 pointz. I honestly think that LIC has to be one of the blandest neighborhoods in NYC. The only areas of interest that I can think of are that strip of Vernon Blvd and the waterfront park + views.
But I can understand people living in LIC for the convenience. The mass transit coverage is great, and the location is very centralized. Imagine working in Midtown and being a 5-minute ride away. And being so close and accessible to not only most of Manhattan, but also places like Astoria, Greenpoint+Williamsburg, Jackson Heights, etc having the 7, E, F, M, G, N, R, and W trains you can go almost anywhere very easily except maybe The Bronx. And I think the views are probably the best in all of NYC. It was only a matter of time until the area exploded with high rises. I just wish there was more... stuff to do. I do think LIC has an insane amount of potential that is has yet to reach. I do feel optimistic that it will improve in the areas that it is lacking. It still has a lot of growing to do.
I have been to South Park when I was in LA, but i didn’t know the name of the area until now. I’ve been to Staples Center and I remember passing by the convention center. The area did not really stand out to me at all other than the Staples Center tbh. LA Live was not complete when I was there though. Maybe it would be more interesting today.
I would say that LIC wins in transit and urbanity
South Park with entertainment and shopping since LIC has none of that, and South Park has Staples Center and LA Live.
Restaurants: IDK. This might be the one other spot where LIC does decent. LIC does actually have some good food along Vernon, and also farther east of Court Square by LaGuardia Community College. I’ve never eaten at a restaurant in South Park though, so I can’t say.
Future: I think LIC still has yet to tap into its potential. I’m optimistic about the neighborhood. I think it will become a much more interesting place in the future. This is the only time I am looking forward to gentrification, since there is nothing to push out in the first place (except for Five Pointz, which already happened a few years ago )
South Park I can see becoming a big tourist destination. Which is interesting because when I went to LA I was advised by locals (multiple people) to not even bother with Downtown LA. I still ended up there anyway though. I imagine that people don’t say that as much anymore.
Here’s the question: is LIC really that much cheaper than the UES these days? One could get the same convenience to midtown in a much better neighborhood, at a similar pricepoint.
Here’s the question: is LIC really that much cheaper than the UES these days? One could get the same convenience to midtown in a much better neighborhood, at a similar pricepoint.
It depends on which part of the UES, but another thing to factor in is LIC having a lot of new construction which some people greatly prefer.
For all it’s growth LIC still feels sort of empty. DUMBO definitely has more foot traffic and things going on!
Good point. I think that South Park has at least as much foot traffic as LIC even if you exclude LA Live/Staples.
But they’re similar in that when you do walk you have this strange mix of 50 story skyscrapers on a block of 1-2 story 80 year old underused buildings.
Here are a link to Downtown border maps in case people dont know South Park. Discover L.A. - Neighborhood Map
The boundaries are not exact but usually either 7th or 8th street to the north or Hill Street or Broadway or Main Street to the east and then the freeways are the rest.
General Map - https://goo.gl/maps/1AgjKzWehdH2
When it comes to foot traffic. Most of it tends to be on Figueroa from LA Live/Staples/Convention Center towards the Financial District where many shops, hotels, bars are located. Also 8th Street, Flower, Olive, Olympic Blvd have decent foot traffic since many residential there and grocery stores, everyday type stores. Otherwise, the rest of South Park feels empty. Maybe the new buildings need time to lease their storefront, and have fuller residential occupancy. Or maybe it is the time of day when people are at work and really no one is home in the area to walk around, but that it feels dead esp in the areas east of Figueroa and south of Olympic. I think it will take time and a lot more people moving in and new buildings to feel busier.
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