Dallas-Fort Worth vs. Washington-Baltimore metro area definition (cons, market, job)
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Just not like Manchester and Liverpool which go back much further and are therefore more distinct than Washington and Baltimore, right?
I guess so? What I'm saying is factually correct. DC and Baltimore are older cities that have differencrs that date back way before Fort Worth was thought of.
Although me saying this does not take away the fact that Fort Worth and Dallas are different as well. You're taking what I said too seriously and changing what I mean behind my statements. All I'm doing is stating facts about the Balt-Wash region or do I need to clarify this too? Like in the other post you replied to me but when I replied and you realized you were wrong you decided not to go there, right?
I guess so? What I'm saying is factually correct. DC and Baltimore are older cities that have differencrs that date back way before Fort Worth was thought of.
Although me saying this does not take away the fact that Fort Worth and Dallas are different as well. You're taking what I said too seriously and changing what I mean behind my statements. All I'm doing is stating facts about the Balt-Wash region or do I need to clarify this too? Like in the other post you replied to me but when I replied and you realized you were wrong you decided not to go there, right?
Oh brother...
First of all, relax (as you so often advise). I am partly just giving you a hard time. Secondly, there's a difference between "realizing I was wrong" and therefore "not wanting to go there" and seeing no good in cannibalizing this thread and turning it into a petty back and forth. But if it would make you feel better, I'd be happy to go back to your other posts and address them individually.
Also in the context of conversation, it can be easy for several of your posts to appear equally as a claim that the differences of one pair of cities are not only less numerous but also less significant than those of the other or that there are no meaningful differences at all in the case of Dallas and Fort Worth. But again, that may just be me putting meaning into your words that is not there - so please clarify - because as it is, it looks awfully like you're suggesting that Fort Worth is some sort of suburb which rubs me and others the wrong way.
Somewhat back on track, Fort Worth was founded in 1849. Dallas was founded eight years earlier in 1841 and about a day's ride away from where Fort Worth would be founded. And yes, these two cities are about fifty years younger than Washington D.C., though I still fail to see the relevance of that to this discussion. Perhaps I'm missing something. If I am, feel free to explain.
First of all, relax (as you so often advise). I am partly just giving you a hard time. Secondly, there's a difference between "realizing I was wrong" and therefore "not wanting to go there" and seeing no good in cannibalizing this thread and turning it into a petty back and forth. But if it would make you feel better, I'd be happy to go back to your other posts and address them individually.
Also in the context of conversation, it can be easy for several of your posts to appear equally as a claim that the differences of one pair of cities are not only less numerous but also less significant than those of the other or that there are no meaningful differences at all in the case of Dallas and Fort Worth. But again, that may just be me putting meaning into your words that is there - so please clarify - because as it is, looks awfully like your suggesting that Fort Worth is some sort of suburb which rubs me and others the wrong way.
Somewhat back on track, Fort Worth was founded in 1849. Dallas was founded eight years earlier in 1841 and about about a day's ride away from where Fort Worth would be founded. And yes, these two cities are about fifty years younger than Washington D.C., though I still fail to see the relevance of that to this discussion. Perhaps I'm missing something. If I am, feel free to explain.
When the heck have I said the Fort Worth is a suburb?! What have I even said to imply or suggest that Fort Worth was a suburb?! Yes you are putting meaning in my words, I've literally made one sentence and then you put a whole meaning that's as long as a novel behind it. I've already clarified what I've said, do I need to my repeat myself. I don't need to relax, you need to. You're the one that keeps patronizing me for stating facts about my area when:
1. I didn't even talk about Fort Worth because I've never been. I didn't want to offended anyone so I only said things I knew about Baltimore and DC. How is that a bad thing! I chose my words carefully but you still found a way to nit pick and whine about it. All I said is "DC and Baltimore are also culturally different". I didn't say Dallas and Forth Worth weren't?! I was adding on to other posters who were talking the DC-Balt area. All I know is that DC and Balt are older cities. I've been Dallas but not Forth Worth so I chose not to say anything about it.
2. You are telling me to clarify when I already did?! I said what I said doesn't take away from Dallas and Fort Worth's cultural differences in the paragraph I made which you just responded too. Did you even read what I said?! I think you're actually looking for something be mad about. You're litetally nit picking and adding meaning to it.
This is basically what my sentence is like and this is your response.
- Also McDonalds has really good french fries.
- So you're saying Wendys doesn't have good french fries?! Please clarify this statement because even though you never said it you need to clarify this because you're wrong. You basically just heavily suggested that Wendy's doesn't have good French fries and is a bad restaurant even though you never said it.
First of all, relax (as you so often advise). I am partly just giving you a hard time. Secondly, there's a difference between "realizing I was wrong" and therefore "not wanting to go there" and seeing no good in cannibalizing this thread and turning it into a petty back and forth. But if it would make you feel better, I'd be happy to go back to your other posts and address them individually.
Also in the context of conversation, it can be easy for several of your posts to appear equally as a claim that the differences of one pair of cities are not only less numerous but also less significant than those of the other or that there are no meaningful differences at all in the case of Dallas and Fort Worth. But again, that may just be me putting meaning into your words that is not there - so please clarify - because as it is, it looks awfully like you're suggesting that Fort Worth is some sort of suburb which rubs me and others the wrong way.
Somewhat back on track, Fort Worth was founded in 1849. Dallas was founded eight years earlier in 1841 and about a day's ride away from where Fort Worth would be founded. And yes, these two cities are about fifty years younger than Washington D.C., though I still fail to see the relevance of that to this discussion. Perhaps I'm missing something. If I am, feel free to explain.
You didn't even have to comment on it. He made several points based on facts that you could not accept. History is very relevant to how cities are shaped and formed in the modern day. To ignore the foundation of such cities is to ignore the sociological mindset of that generation and what they deemed as important. For example, the Los Angeles that we see today was largely developed during the automobile age, whereas, a city such as New York was developed several years before the automobile. It doesn't mean one is better than the other or more important (there are many other metrics to prove those things), but it does help to understand why a city like Ft. Worth looks more suburban.
If anyone is curious, this is how the two stack up with other metropolises (by extended definition -- their most lax actual area definitions) worldwide. I compiled the list myself, it took me a very very long time to do so and as you can see towards the end, I am no where near done. I'll finish it one day in the next couple of years, when I get free time for it.
If you are reading this list and seeing names of cities/metropolises that you have never in your life heard of before, then you are normal. The planet is huge and contrary to popular belief, there is an abundance of massive cities all over the planet, just more prominently that no one has ever heard of them outside of people in those cities in most instances.
001- Tokyo: 35.6 Million (but total extended area is 42.6 million -- the definition is rarely used though)
002- Chongqing: 28,846,170
003- Jakarta: 28,020,000
004- São Paulo: 27,640,577
005- Seoul: 25,547,000
006- Shanghai: 23,711,000
007- New York: 23,363,000
008- Osaka: 22,758,000
009- Delhi: 22,242,000
010- Manila: 21,951,000
011- Mexico City: 21,404,000
012- Karachi: 21,144,000
013- Hangzhou: 21,102,000
014- Mumbai: 20,749,000
015- Beijing: 20,653,000
016- London: 19,109,000
017- Los Angeles: 18,082,000
018- Cairo: 17,857,000
019- Lagos: 17,500,000
020- Moscow: 16,200,000
021- Dhaka: 15,414,000
022- Nagoya: 14.8 million
023- Calcutta: 14,617,000
024- Chengdu: 14,047,625
025- Bangkok: 13,800,000
026- Buenos Aires: 13,639,000
027- Istanbul: 13,576,000
028- Tehran: 13.5 million
029- Rhine-Ruhr: 13.4 million
030- Fukuoka: 13,232,000
031- Guangzhou: 12.8 million
032- Lahore: 12,500,000
033- Paris: 12,161,542
034- Rio de Janeiro: 12,043,000
035- Shenzhen: 11,885,000
036- Lagos: 11,800,000
037- Baoding: 11,195,000
038- Tianjin: 11,090,000
039- Bogota: 10,764,000
040- Harbin: 10,636,000
041- Suzhou: 10,549,100
042- Johannesburg: 10,268,000
043- Nanyang: 10,264,000
044- Shijiazhuang: 10,165,000
045- Fuyang: 10,143,000
046- Wuhan: 10,120,000
047- Linyi: 10,040,000
048- Chicago: 9,900,000
049- Lima: 9,368,000 050- Washington DC-Baltimore: 9,332,000
051- Ho Chi Minh City: 9.2 million
052- Handan: 9,175,000
053- Wenzhou: 9,123,000
054- Kinshasa: 9,046,000
055- Ganzhou: 8,970,000
056- Toronto: 8,960,000
057- Zhoukou: 8,954,000
058- Chennai: 8,918,000
059- Bangalore: 8,730,000
060- Qingdao: 8,715,100
061- Singapore: 8.7 million
062- Zhengzhou: 8,626,545
063- Xuzhou: 8,581,000
064- Xi'an: 8,467,000
065- San Francisco Bay Area: 8,372,000
066- Dongguan: 8,220,170
067- Busan: 8,175,000
068- Nanjing: 8,161,400
069- Quanzhou: 8,129,000
070- Shenyang: 8,106,171
071- Baghdad: 8,092,000
072- Boston: 7,992,000
073- Hyderabad: 7,750,000
074- Ningbo: 7,606,000
075- Tangshan: 7,578,000
076- Randstad: 7.5 million
077- Changchun: 7,459,005
078- Hefei: 7,458,000
079- Bandung: 7,414,160
080- Milan: 7.4 million
081- Hong Kong: 7.4 million
082- Shangqui: 7,363,000
083- Nantong: 7,283,000
084- Madrid: 7.2 million
085- Riyadh: 7.2 million
086- Fuzhou: 7.2 million
087- Foshan: 7,194,311
088- Hengyang: 7,142,000
089- Cangzhou: 7,135,000
090- Philadelphia: 7,130,000
091- Abidjan: 7,109,000
092- Xingtai: 7,105,000 093- Dallas/Fort Worth: 7,096,000
094- Shaoyang: 7,072,000
095- Changsha: 7,044,118
096- Zhanjiang: 6,994,000
097- Taipei: 6,990,000
098- Jinan: 6,814,000
099- Santiago: 6.7 million
100- Nanning: 6,661,600
101- Shangrao: 6.58 million
102- Luoyang: 6.55 million
103- Bijie: 6,537,000
104- Hanoi: 6.5 million
105- Surat: 6,463,000
106- Kunming: 6,433,000
107- Wuxi: 6,377,000
108- Miami: 6,376,000
109- Houston: 6,372,000
110- Mogadishu: 6,346,000
111- Ahmedabad: 6,240,000
112- Dalian: 6,170,000
113- Huanggang: 6,163,000
114- Zunyi: 6,128,000
115- Xinyang: 6,109,000
116- Munich: 6.1 million
117- Atlanta: 6,093,000
118- Yangon: 6 million
119- Berlin: 6 million
120- Yulin: 5,980,000
121- Jieyang: 5,878,000
122- Xiangyang: 5.82 million
123- Maoming: 5,818,000
124- Detroit: 5,760,000
125- Changde: 5,718,000
126- Jingzhou: 5,692,000
127- Surabaya: 5,623,000
128- Frankfurt: 5.52 million
129- Yueyang: 5,478,000
130- Suihua: 5,417,000
131- Belo Horizonte: 5,404,000
132- Shantou: 5,393,000
133- Barcelona: 5,376,000
134- Qiqihar: 5,367,000
135- Jeddah: 5,318,000
136- Anqing: 5,311,000
137- Stuttgart: 5.3 million
138- Katowice: 5,295,000
139- Pingdingshan: 5.2 million
140- Yongzhou: 5,181,000
141- Anyang: 5,173,000
142- Khartoum: 5,172,000
143- Dammam: 5,119,000
144- Xiamen: 5,116,000
145- San Diego/Tijuana: 5,106,000
146- Flemish Diamond: 5.1 million
147- Yinchun: 5.1 million
148- Bozhou: 5.1 million
149- Pune: 5,050,000
150- Nanchang: 5,043,000
151- Saint Petersburg: 5,029,000
152- Meizhou: 5,053,000
153- Daegu: 5.05 million
154- Ankara: 5 million
155- Huaihua: 5 million
156- Zhangzhou: 4,985,000
157- Xiaogen: 4,815,000
158- Luanda: 4,772,000
159- Guilin: 4,748,000
160- Alexandria: 4.7 million
161- Dar es Saleem: 4.7 million
162- Kaifeng: 4,677,000
163- Sydney: 4,668,000
164- Hamburg: 4.6 million
165- Changzhou: 4,592,000
166- Chenzhou: 4,560,000
167- Zibo: 4,537,000
168- Damascas: 4.5 million
169- Guadalajara: 4,436,000
170- Tampa Bay Area: 4.45 million
171- Jiangmen: 4,449,000
172- Guigang: 4.4 million
173- Seattle: 4.4 million
174- Langfang: 4,359,000
175- Zhangjiakou: 4,346,000
176- Chifeng: 4,342,000
177- Hengshui: 4,341,000
178- Phoenix: 4.33 million
179- Guiyang: 4,325,000
180- Yiyang: 4,314,000
181- Melbourne: 4,247,000
182- Taiyuan: 4.2 million
183- Rome: 4,195,000
184- Athens: 4,120,000
185- Guatemala City: 4.1 million
186- Naples: 4.1 million
187- Monterrey: 4,081,000
188- Porto Alegre: 4,076,000
189- Yichang: 4,039,000
190- Izmir: 4,006,000
191- Casablanca: 3,975,000
192- Zhaoqing: 3,910,000
193- Montreal: 3,909,000
194- Aleppo: 3.78 million
I obviously have to update all of the places at some point. This list was made 2 years ago as a personal curiosity project of mine. For example, the Dallas/Fort Worth CSA is now larger than Greater Philadelphia in population. So I will get around to updating this when I get time.
If he did, I guarantee he just spent like 10 minutes here and based his thoughts on what he saw from inside the car.
I like FW but I think the comment was on the relative size compared to Baltimore, while the population of the county is larger for FW the city itself feels significantly smaller
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