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View Poll Results: Which of these large cities is the most segregated
Chicago 96 84.96%
Phoenix 1 0.88%
Dallas 6 5.31%
San Diego 2 1.77%
San Antonio 3 2.65%
other 5 4.42%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-18-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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Over 1 million is Chicago IMO, though NYC in parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn are actually really segregated too. Manhattan doesn't feel like it because there's so many people living in it, so it's a bit different (even though pats of Manhattan are pretty damn segregated too but it's different than most places). If you were going to go down to 500K, then Milwaukee is actually usually ranked #1.
There are few, if any parts of The Bronx that are over 90% of one race. Most neighborhoods have a mix of at least two racial groups (even if we pretend Hispanic counts as one race).

Eastern Brooklyn does have some sections that are over 90% black, though.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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There are few, if any parts of The Bronx that are over 90% of one race. Most neighborhoods have a mix of at least two racial groups (even if we pretend Hispanic counts as one race).

Eastern Brooklyn does have some sections that are over 90% black, though.
Yeah I meant Queens. Not sure why I said Bronx.

New York Black Population Percentage Census Tract Rank

At least as of a few years ago, there were 272,490 people in NYC living in census tracts that were 90+% Black.

Brooklyn: 197,594 people
Queens: 74,679 people
Manhattan: 161 people
Bronx: 56 people
Staten Island: 0 people

For 90+% White areas, NYC has a total of 488,532 people living in those areas.
Brooklyn: 192,796 people
Staten Island: 158,852 people
Manhattan: 66,475 people
Bronx: 6131 people

I was curious about this whole white thing. 488,532 people is 5.85% of the population from the year this site has for NYC. I looked it up for Chicago for 90+% white tracts and there's 153,451 people in Chicago living in 90+% white tracts, or 5.66%. Both cities are very similar in this by percentage (NYC by about 0.20% but that's not a lot). Black percentage in Chicago will be way higher of course which is definitely where Chicago is worse (Asian for both NYC and Chicago are about the same - Chicago has more Hispanic than NYC in these types of tracts as well).

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Old 06-18-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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Yeah I meant Queens. Not sure why I said Bronx.

New York Black Population Percentage Census Tract Rank

At least as of a few years ago, there were 272,490 people in NYC living in census tracts that were 90+% Black.

Brooklyn: 197,594 people
Queens: 74,679 people
Manhattan: 161 people
Bronx: 56 people
Staten Island: 0 people

For 90+% White areas, NYC has a total of 488,532 people living in those areas.
Brooklyn: 192,796 people
Staten Island: 158,852 people
Manhattan: 66,475 people
Bronx: 6131 people

I was curious about this whole white thing. 488,532 people is 5.85% of the population from the year this site has for NYC. I looked it up for Chicago for 90+% white tracts and there's 153,451 people in Chicago living in 90+% white tracts, or 5.66%. Both cities are very similar in this by percentage (NYC by about 0.20% but that's not a lot). Black percentage in Chicago will be way higher of course which is definitely where Chicago is worse (Asian for both NYC and Chicago are about the same - Chicago has more Hispanic than NYC in these types of tracts as well).
Interesting that The Bronx is so low. I guess Hispanics have moved to every single Bronx neighborhood, unlike parts of Eastern Brooklyn and Southeast Queens which seem to be overwhelmingly.black with few others.

I bet Wakefield and Williamsbridge have gotten considerably more Hispanic over the last 10 years.

I'm also surprised Brooklyn has that many white tracts like that, I wonder if it's from the yuppie neighborhoods or the Eastern European ones. The latter all seem to have sizable Chinese and Mexican populations.

And NYC doesn't have any extremely Hispanic neighborhoods come to think of it, except for maybe Corona. They usually have some degree of mixture.
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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Really, of course it's Chicago. It was segregated well before these other SUNBELT city options ...... were half there size and less.

I'm sure the OP knew what the outcome would be in the options.
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:28 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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35 to 1 to 1 to 1 is about as lopsided of a poll as you'll see on city-data...that said, it should be 38-0
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:46 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Citiy = Chicago.

But metro areas, I believe Philadelphia and Detroit are the most segregated in terms of ethnicity and wealth when comparing the suburbs to the cities.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I think Philly would have been more competitive than the other cities you listed, so I'm not sure why you didn't list it. I agree that especially in Center City, University City, South Philly and Fishtown/No.Libs/Poplar/Fairmount/Brewerytown (I am talking about the more gentrified/gentrifying part of North Philly here), it is quite unsegregated. However, there are still plenty of parts of North Philly, Southwest Philly and West Philly past around 50th where it is almost uniformly Black (or in parts of North Philly, Latino).

I don't think it's as stark as Chicago, but I think Philly would be a more competitive city than say Dallas or Phoenix.
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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I think Philly would have been more competitive than the other cities you listed, so I'm not sure why you didn't list it. I agree that especially in Center City, University City, South Philly and Fishtown/No.Libs/Poplar/Fairmount/Brewerytown (I am talking about the more gentrified/gentrifying part of North Philly here), it is quite unsegregated. However, there are still plenty of parts of North Philly, Southwest Philly and West Philly past around 50th where it is almost uniformly Black (or in parts of North Philly, Latino).

I don't think it's as stark as Chicago, but I think Philly would be a more competitive city than say Dallas or Phoenix.
Sorry but I don't think Dallas considers Philly one of its primary competitors. They think of Chicago and Atlanta.
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:49 AM
 
Location: MPLS/CHI
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As much as it pains me to say this, it's definitely Chicago. I feel like this contributes to the huge crime issue as well. One part of the city is thriving while the other is forgotten and left to rot.
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Chicago is so segregated that majority black neighborhoods rarely even experience gentrification. They did a study on this a year or two ago.
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