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I disagree - Dallas' urban core is much bigger and has more sustained contiguous urbanity with downtown-adjacent neighborhoods like Uptown, Oak Lawn, Deep Ellum, etc.
This is a bad take. Charleston and Savannah is more urban than Atlanta despite the latter having more urbanized areas. As a smaller city, Denver is more urban, overall. Dallas is very spread out in comparison.
This is a bad take. Charleston and Savannah is more urban than Atlanta despite the latter having more urbanized areas. As a smaller city, Denver is more urban, overall. Dallas is very spread out in comparison.
I don't think I'd agree with that, but even if true Charleston is a colonial city that is almost 200 years older than Atlanta. That is an entirely different scenario than Denver and Dallas. Dallas was actually the larger of the two in 1950 when American cities moved towards car-based layouts.
It's certainly not that I think Dallas is a super urban city, just that I've never found Denver to be overly urban either. And in terms of feeling big, I don't think that one is close. Dallas feels much bigger to me; it's in a completely separate tier in that respect.
I don't think I'd agree with that, but even if true Charleston is a colonial city that is almost 200 years older than Atlanta. That is an entirely different scenario than Denver and Dallas. Dallas was actually the larger of the two in 1950 when American cities moved towards car-based layouts.
It's certainly not that I think Dallas is a super urban city, just that I've never found Denver to be overly urban either. And in terms of feeling big, I don't think that one is close. Dallas feels much bigger to me; it's in a completely separate tier in that respect.
I was actually going to bring this up. Denver was larger than Dallas for a good chunk of history. It wasn’t until the 1950s that Dallas took over. Perhaps that contributes to why some think Denver has a more “classic” urban feel in parts. For instance there’s not really anywhere in Dallas (That I know of) as compact as the neighborhoods Denver has immediately South/southeast of Downtown.
This is a bad take. Charleston and Savannah is more urban than Atlanta despite the latter having more urbanized areas. As a smaller city, Denver is more urban, overall. Dallas is very spread out in comparison.
Does Denver have anything that matches the contiguous urbanity of the McKinney corridor? Colfax or Broadway maybe, but they're much wider and have more of that sun-belty vibe.
I don't think I'd agree with that, but even if true Charleston is a colonial city that is almost 200 years older than Atlanta. That is an entirely different scenario than Denver and Dallas. Dallas was actually the larger of the two in 1950 when American cities moved towards car-based layouts.
It's certainly not that I think Dallas is a super urban city, just that I've never found Denver to be overly urban either. And in terms of feeling big, I don't think that one is close. Dallas feels much bigger to me; it's in a completely separate tier in that respect.
Those cities are much more urban overall, that's not debatable. Denver at its core is much more urban than Dallas as well.
Those cities are much more urban overall, that's not debatable. Denver at its core is much more urban than Dallas as well.
That is 101% debatable.
Atlanta has a much bigger urban core than Charleston and Savanah. Both fall of the map outside their historic districts.
You may be confusing downtown and the core. Downtown's are only a small portion of the core. The measure of a city's core is based on the supporting neighborhoods.
Those cities are much more urban overall, that's not debatable. Denver at its core is much more urban than Dallas as well.
In Savannah's case, it's a small area that's urban with no tall buildings. Atlanta is much larger with a much larger urban footprint in Downtown, Midtown, Old Fourth Ward, Sweet Auburn, Little Five Points, Cabbagetown, West Midtown, Virginia Highlands, Inman Park, East Atlanta, Reynoldstown, Glenwood Park, downtown Decatur, parts of Buckhead, etc. It's not really comparable. An example of the Fairlie Poplar neighborhood in Atlanta pre-covid: https://goo.gl/maps/Beq3Npkf6QJfBdZWA
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