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Cincinnati has like comically useless CSA-Only counties.
Probably the smallest gap between MSA and CSA where the CSA exists
Also Rochester NY is kinda sad really losing pace with Buffalo. I bet per Capita, Buffalo is going to catch Rochester soon. (Rochester used to have the larger economy period)
Not always, as it would flux and Buffalo has always had a little more in terms of population
In my opinion I don't think these GDP rankings give a fair comparison when ranked against certain metros simply because of the cost of living differnential. There are cities with smaller populations and less industry, but generate more GDP because of this reason. Some metro areas may be on the same level for cost of living but most are not. Definitely not an apples to apples comparison for the most part. Austin having such a large GDP for its size is one prime example. Nothing against the great city of Austin but it is definitely an outlier in the part of the country where it is located. It is comprable with some cities on the east and west coasts for median home prices, etc.
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Also Rochester NY is kinda sad really losing pace with Buffalo. I bet per Capita, Buffalo is going to catch Rochester soon. (Rochester used to have the larger economy period)
Absolutely crushing to see Rochester fall to the 4th largest economy in New York when only about a decade ago it was the 2nd largest above Buffalo and Albany.
Failed leadership is all I can say.
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
Not always, as it would flux and Buffalo has always had a little more in terms of population
When I first joined this site Rochester was above Buffalo and had been for some time. I believe it was the early 2010s when the gap in pace of growth really started to increase.
Absolutely crushing to see Rochester fall to the 4th largest economy in New York when only about a decade ago it was the 2nd largest above Buffalo and Albany.
Failed leadership is all I can say.
When I first joined this site Rochester was above Buffalo and had been for some time. I believe it was the early 2010s when the gap in pace of growth really started to increase.
Rochester was ahead of Buffalo in GDP between 2000 and 2004, when Buffalo converged, and both cities tracked together until 2010 when Buffalo began its divergence higher than Rochester. Here is a graph showing GDP change since 2000 for Buffalo, Rochester, and Albany.
I think it's likely that through the 1960s and 1970s Buffalo led Rochester in metro GDP, prior to the substantial losses of heavy industries and banking that occurred in Buffalo through the 1980s, while Rochester's industries and population was still on the upswing.
In the 2022 data Buffalo dropped out of the top 50, with faster-growing Omaha taking its place at #50, Buffalo at #51.
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Here's Per capita GDP, by MSA (for 50 largest MSAs by population in 2022):
San Jose $208,155
San Francisco $159,207
Seattle $128,352
Boston $116,654
New York $110,609
Salt Lake City $106,942
Washington $105,444
Hartford $99,206
Denver $96,722
Los Angeles $95,357
Austin $91,716
Nashville $90,616
San Diego $90,240
Chicago $89,809
Minneapolis $87,709
Indianapolis $86,985
Dallas $86,727
Houston $85,932
Baltimore $85,130
Atlanta $84,312
Philadelphia $83,075
Charlotte $83,058
Cincinnati $82,433
Richmond $81,776
Portland $81,419
Raleigh $80,625
Miami $78,796
Columbus $78,243
Milwaukee $77,294
Kansas City $76,715
Cleveland $75,360
St. Louis $74,942
Pittsburgh $74,562
Sacramento $72,941
Buffalo $72,919
Phoenix $72,191
Memphis $71,786
Orlando $70,354
Detroit $70,278
Jacksonville $69,920
Las Vegas $69,190
Birmingham $66,964
Louisville $66,696
Tampa $66,676
Virginia Beach $65,290
Oklahoma City $64,919
Providence $63,072
San Antonio $61,409
Riverside $50,972
Fresno $47,154
Rochester was ahead of Buffalo in GDP between 2000 and 2004, when Buffalo converged, and both cities tracked together until 2010 when Buffalo began its divergence higher than Rochester. Here is a graph showing GDP change since 2000 for Buffalo, Rochester, and Albany.
I think it's likely that through the 1960s and 1970s Buffalo led Rochester in metro GDP, prior to the substantial losses of heavy industries and banking that occurred in Buffalo through the 1980s, while Rochester's industries and population was still on the upswing.
In the 2022 data Buffalo dropped out of the top 50, with faster-growing Omaha taking its place at #50, Buffalo at #51.
Yes in 2010 Rochester was just a smidge bigger, now it’s fallen well behind and seems like it’s losing ground to both Buffalo and Albany
Here's Per capita GDP, by MSA (for 50 largest MSAs by population in 2022):
San Jose $208,155
San Francisco $159,207
Seattle $128,352
Boston $116,654
New York $110,609
Salt Lake City $106,942
Washington $105,444
Hartford $99,206
Denver $96,722
Los Angeles $95,357
Austin $91,716
Nashville $90,616
San Diego $90,240
Chicago $89,809
Minneapolis $87,709
Indianapolis $86,985
Dallas $86,727
Houston $85,932
Baltimore $85,130
Atlanta $84,312
Philadelphia $83,075
Charlotte $83,058
Cincinnati $82,433
Richmond $81,776
Portland $81,419
Raleigh $80,625
Miami $78,796
Columbus $78,243
Milwaukee $77,294
Kansas City $76,715
Cleveland $75,360
St. Louis $74,942
Pittsburgh $74,562
Sacramento $72,941
Buffalo $72,919
Phoenix $72,191
Memphis $71,786
Orlando $70,354
Detroit $70,278
Jacksonville $69,920
Las Vegas $69,190
Birmingham $66,964
Louisville $66,696
Tampa $66,676
Virginia Beach $65,290
Oklahoma City $64,919
Providence $63,072
San Antonio $61,409
Riverside $50,972
Fresno $47,154
Great work--thanks!
about these 2: San Jose $208,155
San Francisco $159,207
The Central Bay Area should really be a single area.
2022 GDP--2022 Pop.-GDP Per Capita-County
$400.777B--1,870,945-$214,319--Santa Clara, CA
$252.186B--808,437---$312,111--San Francisco, CA
$177.912B--729,181---$244,049--San Mateo, CA
$168.506B--1,628,997-$103,504--Alameda, CA
$94.802B---1,156,966-$82,008---Contra Costa, CA
$35.697B---256,018---$139,441--Marin, CA
$1.129T----6,447,544-$175,120--Central Bay Area[/quote]
Yes in 2010 Rochester was just a smidge bigger, now it’s fallen well behind and seems like it’s losing ground to both Buffalo and Albany
With the bolded growing at a steady rate, in population and economically. It makes sense given its proximity to the Bos-Wash corridor and it is a state capital metro, with a strong higher education and growing tech sectors.
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