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Old 07-30-2009, 06:51 PM
 
Location: West LA
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Then why the world's most important cities is London followed by NYC? LA is important but not as NYC.
This thread is about states, LA is only one city in CA. CA has LA (Beta+), SF (Beta+), and SD (Gamma-). Whether all those togehter are more important than an Alpha++... who knows
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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This thread is about states, LA is only one city in CA. CA has LA (Beta+), SF (Beta+), and SD (Gamma-). Whether all those togehter are more important than an Alpha++... who knows
I was just quoting the person who was talking about NYC. Other than that I remained neutral to what the other posters were posting about.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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^ CITIES not states. That's most important CITIES. When will you finally realize this? It's not hard to understand, at all. Is California a city? No.
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I was just quoting the person who was talking about NYC. Other than that I remained neutral to what the other posters were posting about.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Will you give this link a break already?
Why? Because these links are proving my point?
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:32 PM
 
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Well all I know is that BOTH CA and TX have a higher GDP then NY.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:38 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Well all I know is that BOTH CA and TX have a higher GDP then NY.
I hope you know more than that!
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:01 PM
 
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Dying in California is a step above actually having to 'live' in some of the other states in this country.



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I think once New Yorkers realize the difference between NYC and NY. They will understand. Financially, NYC can compete with any state, but importance. Not so much.
I think NYC alone can compete with many states in terms of importance. I think that city alone offers more within its city limits than many of our states (Delaware, Rhode Island, Idaho, etc.). But there's no way any one city can compete with the importance of our mega-states like CA, TX and FL, and several others. These states could effectively be their own countries in many ways; NYC can't do that. No single city contains the infrastructure to be completely self-sufficient. So it may arguably have everything that many people would hope for a city to have, and it may be the most complete city in the nation, but its not more important than our most populous states. Too many various things come from these entire states, ranging in anything from food/agriculture to technology, for any single city to eclipse their importance (with the exception of NY state - NYC is probably more important all by itself than the rest of NY state).

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This thread is about states, LA is only one city in CA. CA has LA (Beta+), SF (Beta+), and SD (Gamma-). Whether all those together are more important than an Alpha++... who knows
And even then, that's only comparing 3 of CA's cities to NYC. If you're gonna do that you might as well make it LA vs. Manhattan, SF vs. Brooklyn, and SD vs. Queens, and then maybe Oakland vs. Bronx and San Jose vs. Staten. And even then that's only a handful of our cities just to make things more even (which NYC would still be ahead by in terms of population), and then you have all the rest of CA to look at, most of which the strength lies beyond its cities. So there's really no comparison here. Its like comparing CA to Asia. Its not even approaching being an even playing field.

NYC is unequaled as the most important city in the US. CA is our most important state from many different angles (GDP, population, agriculture, you name it). Comparing a city, no matter how important, to any state is pretty ridiculous to begin with. But NYC IMO still is able to shine as being more important all by itself than several if not many of our states. That in itself is pretty amazing.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:09 PM
 
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I hope you know more than that!
I may know a little more then that.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Amen!



I think NYC alone can compete with many states in terms of importance. I think that city alone offers more within its city limits than many of our states (Delaware, Rhode Island, Idaho, etc.). But there's no way any one city can compete with the importance of our mega-states like CA, TX and FL, and several others. These states could effectively be their own countries in many ways; NYC can't do that. No single city contains the infrastructure to be completely self-sufficient. So it may arguably have everything that many people would hope for a city to have, and it may be the most complete city in the nation, but its not more important than our most populous states. Too many various things come from these entire states, ranging in anything from food/agriculture to technology, for any single city to eclipse their importance (with the exception of NY state - NYC is probably more important all by itself than the rest of NY state).



And even then, that's only comparing 3 of CA's cities to NYC. If you're gonna do that you might as well make it LA vs. Manhattan, SF vs. Brooklyn, and SD vs. Queens, and then maybe Oakland vs. Bronx and San Jose vs. Staten. And even then that's only a handful of our cities just to make things more even (which NYC would still be ahead by in terms of population), and then you have all the rest of CA to look at, most of which the strength lies beyond its cities. So there's really no comparison here. Its like comparing CA to Asia. Its not even approaching being an even playing field.

NYC is unequaled as the most important city in the US. CA is our most important state from many different angles (GDP, population, agriculture, you name it). Comparing a city, no matter how important, to any state is pretty ridiculous to begin with. But NYC IMO still is able to shine as being more important all by itself than several if not many of our states. That in itself is pretty amazing.
I have to disagree, it's all about how your making the money, more than how much you have. Texas has a wide variety compared to NYC, hell NYS alone.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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Dying in California is a step above actually having to 'live' in some of the other states in this country.



Just kidding..I agree..I have a love/hate relationship with state politics though,but the physicality of California is simply hard to compete with.
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