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View Poll Results: What MAJOR city is the best for relocation for football H.O.F.?
Atlanta 30 46.88%
Dallas 11 17.19%
Houston 4 6.25%
Boston 4 6.25%
Columbus OH 8 12.50%
Miami 1 1.56%
Raleigh-Durham 0 0%
Los Angeles 6 9.38%
Cinncinati 0 0%
Jacksonville 0 0%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-25-2009, 12:46 AM
 
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True, but the SEC is better at offense that the Big 12 is at defense
Not really. Tennessee is GARBAGE at offense, and I know Tennessee doesn't represent the WHOLE SEC, but if you could use OU for the Big12, then I could use Tennessee. You see how they played against Florida? It was atrocious, yet Florida barely won. Typical SEC. OVERRATED.
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:51 AM
 
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Now that's a big wish....
The same way the Lakers have fan base all across the US, even people not from LA, so do the cowboys. I met a Cowboy fan from New York City. New York City of all places!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:55 AM
 
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The Cowboys fan base goes far beyond the Dallas area and the state of Texas. And the Falcons would have to have the history (and behind the scenes drama lol) that the Cowboys have had for decades now.
Agreed, Cowboys fans are ALL OVER the US. My cousin BORN and RAISED in NJ, and lives in Philly is a Cowboys fan. I met New Yorker Cowboys fans. Just like the Lakers fans, there all over.
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:07 AM
 
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But you do not KNOW that's the case.
You don't know what the case is either but it is logical that they would pick a city that had the best longterm chances of surving and thriving.Many people knew after they moved it from Ohio originally that they would at best survive in South Bend or even fail.SO
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:14 AM
 
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I'm just saying because of Dallas's central location it would be good. But it's all good. And the SEC is overrated.
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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But what about the USC's and Ohio State's, remember good college football teams are all across the US, not just relegated the Southeast.
Yes but 5 out of the 10 most profitable college football teams are in the SEC conference.UGA is the 3 most profitable after Notre Dame@#1,UT@2.After UGA its ;U of Michigan,U of Florida,LSU,U Tenn.,Auburn,and TIDE with U of South Carolina 3 spots after that..Less than a 3 hour drive to Atlanta with the exception of U of FL.,that a good number of fans.SEC is NOT overrated,it consistently has many teams that rank higher than any other conference.

And about your statement regarding the ACC.Georgia Tech,Miami,Florida State,Clemson and even Boston College do consistently well.I hope you are talking this year.Because overall it is a solid conference.
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:02 AM
 
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Yes but 5 out of the 10 most profitable college football teams are in the SEC conference.UGA is the 3 most profitable after Notre Dame@#1,UT@2.After UGA its ;U of Michigan,U of Florida,LSU,U Tenn.,Auburn,and TIDE with U of South Carolina 3 spots after that..Less than a 3 hour drive to Atlanta with the exception of U of FL.,that a good number of fans.SEC is NOT overrated,it consistently has many teams that rank higher than any other conference.

And about your statement regarding the ACC.Georgia Tech,Miami,Florida State,Clemson and even Boston College do consistently well.I hope you are talking this year.Because overall it is a solid conference.
My problem is the same people that LOVE the SEC are the same ones saying the Big12 is overrated. They say the Big12 is overrated because all the teams have poor defense. The same could be said about the SEC having poor offense. UT, OU, Oklahoma ST, are good teams. Everyone wants to jump on the Tim Tebow bandwagon, and don't give Colt McCoy the same credit. There is a SEC bias, and it makes the SEC seem overrated to me. UT, OU, and OKState can go toe, to toe, against LSU, Florida, and Tennessee.
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Old 09-25-2009, 03:57 AM
 
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My problem is the same people that LOVE the SEC are the same ones saying the Big12 is overrated. They say the Big12 is overrated because all the teams have poor defense. The same could be said about the SEC having poor offense. UT, OU, Oklahoma ST, are good teams. Everyone wants to jump on the Tim Tebow bandwagon, and don't give Colt McCoy the same credit. There is a SEC bias, and it makes the SEC seem overrated to me. UT, OU, and OKState can go toe, to toe, against LSU, Florida, and Tennessee.
Well you can say that each year these teams change.Overall the SEC is the best year around.After that sentence something told me to check what the web had to say.I typed in the question :"What is the best college football conference?
This came up in Google:

FROM ESPN: Ranking the nation's best college football conferences - ESPN
The opening week of the 2009 college football season is in the books, so let the debate begin.

Which conference is the best?

Here are this season's first conference rankings, which look a lot like they did a year ago:

1. SEC
Defending BCS national champion Florida and defending SEC West champion Alabama look as good as they did in 2008. Ole Miss beat Memphis 45-14 in its opener but looked a little shaky for a top-10 team. Georgia and South Carolina have issues on offense; LSU has issues on defense. Auburn, Arkansas and Tennessee looked much better in their openers than they did last year.

2. Big 12
Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford's shoulder injury could have a lasting effect on the Big 12 and national championship races. Losing sensational tight end Jermaine Gresham to a season-ending knee injury doesn't help the Sooners' stock, either. Oklahoma State's defense might finally be good enough to challenge Texas in the Big 12 South. Missouri, which had to replace quarterback Chase Daniel and speedy receiver Jeremy Maclin, might have had the most impressive debut in a 37-9 rout of Illinois in Week 1.

3. Pac-10
We'll find out in Saturday night's game at Ohio State whether USC is again the class of the Pac-10. California showed in its opening 52-13 rout of Maryland that it might be good enough to finally challenge the Trojans. Few teams in the country had as bad an opener as Oregon, which lost to Boise State 19-8 and now has to move on without star tailback LeGarrette Blount. Stanford might be the league's dark horse, and Washington was much more competitive in coach Steve Sarkisian's debut.

4. ACC
Yes, it was an awful week for the ACC. Virginia Tech, the preseason favorite to win its third straight ACC crown, lost to Alabama 34-24 in the Georgia Dome. Virginia and Duke both lost to FCS opponents, and Clemson was the only ACC team to beat a FBS nonconference opponent, defeating Middle Tennessee State 37-14. The league salvaged some of its reputation with Miami's 38-34 victory at Florida State on Monday night. The bottom of the league might be bad, but Virginia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Georgia Tech are potential Top 25 teams.

5. Big Ten
It wasn't a great opening weekend for the Big Ten, but Penn State and Ohio State remain in the BCS national title hunt for another week, at least. The Buckeyes needed a stop on a two-point conversion play to beat Navy 31-27, hardly a performance we expected from the Buckeyes. Minnesota needed overtime to beat Syracuse 23-20, and Iowa needed two blocked field goals to beat FCS opponent Northern Iowa 17-16. Illinois was blasted by Missouri, and Wisconsin was hardly impressive in its 28-20 victory over Northern Illinois.

6. Big East
Preseason conference favorites South Florida and Pittsburgh routed lesser opponents in their openers, but West Virginia was less than impressive in a 33-20 win over FCS opponent Liberty. Cincinnati showed it isn't going away any time soon when it blasted Rutgers 47-15 on the road on Monday. Syracuse was much, much more competitive under first-year coach Doug Marrone in its home-opening loss to Minnesota.

7. Mountain West
The league continues to grab national headlines after BYU upset then-No. 3 Oklahoma 14-13 at Dallas Cowboys Stadium on Saturday. Colorado State also scored a big upset with its 23-17 victory at rival Colorado on Sunday. Defending MWC champion Utah didn't have much trouble in a 35-17 victory over Utah State on Thursday night.

8. Conference USA
C-USA might be the country's most underrated league in 2009. Southern Miss and Houston will be tough outs for anyone (be careful, Pokes), and East Carolina and Tulsa will have some say in the conference race. Meanwhile, UAB looked like one of the country's most improved teams in its 44-24 rout of Rice.

9. WAC
Boise State turned in the season's first big surprise with its upset of the Ducks on the blue artificial turf of Bronco Stadium. But the rest of the league -- outside of Fresno State's 51-0 rout of California-Davis -- largely struggled in Week 1. Louisiana Tech and Nevada weren't very competitive in losses to Auburn and Notre Dame, respectively, and Hawaii wasn't very impressive in a 25-20 victory over FCS foe Central Arkansas.

10. MAC
Bowling Green and Buffalo carried the MAC flag in Week 1, as the Falcons upset Troy 31-14 and the Bulls defeated UTEP 23-17. But the MAC had to be disappointed that Western Michigan wasn't more competitive in its 31-7 loss at Michigan and that Central Michigan didn't put up more of a fight in its 19-6 loss at Arizona. Even worse, Temple lost to FCS foe Villanova 27-24.

11. Sun Belt
Four Sun Belt teams lost their openers to teams from BCS conferences by an average of 41 points. Defending Sun Belt champion Troy lost to Bowling Green, while Louisiana-Lafayette and Arkansas State routed lesser opponents. North Texas did look much better in a 20-10 victory over rebuilding Ball State.


Then there is THIS: SurveyMagnet.com » Guest Blogger Opinion from Anthony Stalter: Who Plays The Best College Football?

Here too:http://http://www.pubclub.com/collegefootball/conferences.htm (broken link)

Thats just 4 of the many that came up unquestionably ranking the SEC the best undisputed conference.Its NOT overrated.
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Old 09-25-2009, 04:24 AM
 
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Well you can say that each year these teams change.Overall the SEC is the best year around.After that sentence something told me to check what the web had to say.I typed in the question :"What is the best college football conference?
This came up in Google:

FROM ESPN: Ranking the nation's best college football conferences - ESPN
The opening week of the 2009 college football season is in the books, so let the debate begin.

Which conference is the best?

Here are this season's first conference rankings, which look a lot like they did a year ago:

1. SEC
Defending BCS national champion Florida and defending SEC West champion Alabama look as good as they did in 2008. Ole Miss beat Memphis 45-14 in its opener but looked a little shaky for a top-10 team. Georgia and South Carolina have issues on offense; LSU has issues on defense. Auburn, Arkansas and Tennessee looked much better in their openers than they did last year.

2. Big 12
Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford's shoulder injury could have a lasting effect on the Big 12 and national championship races. Losing sensational tight end Jermaine Gresham to a season-ending knee injury doesn't help the Sooners' stock, either. Oklahoma State's defense might finally be good enough to challenge Texas in the Big 12 South. Missouri, which had to replace quarterback Chase Daniel and speedy receiver Jeremy Maclin, might have had the most impressive debut in a 37-9 rout of Illinois in Week 1.

3. Pac-10
We'll find out in Saturday night's game at Ohio State whether USC is again the class of the Pac-10. California showed in its opening 52-13 rout of Maryland that it might be good enough to finally challenge the Trojans. Few teams in the country had as bad an opener as Oregon, which lost to Boise State 19-8 and now has to move on without star tailback LeGarrette Blount. Stanford might be the league's dark horse, and Washington was much more competitive in coach Steve Sarkisian's debut.

4. ACC
Yes, it was an awful week for the ACC. Virginia Tech, the preseason favorite to win its third straight ACC crown, lost to Alabama 34-24 in the Georgia Dome. Virginia and Duke both lost to FCS opponents, and Clemson was the only ACC team to beat a FBS nonconference opponent, defeating Middle Tennessee State 37-14. The league salvaged some of its reputation with Miami's 38-34 victory at Florida State on Monday night. The bottom of the league might be bad, but Virginia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Georgia Tech are potential Top 25 teams.

5. Big Ten
It wasn't a great opening weekend for the Big Ten, but Penn State and Ohio State remain in the BCS national title hunt for another week, at least. The Buckeyes needed a stop on a two-point conversion play to beat Navy 31-27, hardly a performance we expected from the Buckeyes. Minnesota needed overtime to beat Syracuse 23-20, and Iowa needed two blocked field goals to beat FCS opponent Northern Iowa 17-16. Illinois was blasted by Missouri, and Wisconsin was hardly impressive in its 28-20 victory over Northern Illinois.

6. Big East
Preseason conference favorites South Florida and Pittsburgh routed lesser opponents in their openers, but West Virginia was less than impressive in a 33-20 win over FCS opponent Liberty. Cincinnati showed it isn't going away any time soon when it blasted Rutgers 47-15 on the road on Monday. Syracuse was much, much more competitive under first-year coach Doug Marrone in its home-opening loss to Minnesota.

7. Mountain West
The league continues to grab national headlines after BYU upset then-No. 3 Oklahoma 14-13 at Dallas Cowboys Stadium on Saturday. Colorado State also scored a big upset with its 23-17 victory at rival Colorado on Sunday. Defending MWC champion Utah didn't have much trouble in a 35-17 victory over Utah State on Thursday night.

8. Conference USA
C-USA might be the country's most underrated league in 2009. Southern Miss and Houston will be tough outs for anyone (be careful, Pokes), and East Carolina and Tulsa will have some say in the conference race. Meanwhile, UAB looked like one of the country's most improved teams in its 44-24 rout of Rice.

9. WAC
Boise State turned in the season's first big surprise with its upset of the Ducks on the blue artificial turf of Bronco Stadium. But the rest of the league -- outside of Fresno State's 51-0 rout of California-Davis -- largely struggled in Week 1. Louisiana Tech and Nevada weren't very competitive in losses to Auburn and Notre Dame, respectively, and Hawaii wasn't very impressive in a 25-20 victory over FCS foe Central Arkansas.

10. MAC
Bowling Green and Buffalo carried the MAC flag in Week 1, as the Falcons upset Troy 31-14 and the Bulls defeated UTEP 23-17. But the MAC had to be disappointed that Western Michigan wasn't more competitive in its 31-7 loss at Michigan and that Central Michigan didn't put up more of a fight in its 19-6 loss at Arizona. Even worse, Temple lost to FCS foe Villanova 27-24.

11. Sun Belt
Four Sun Belt teams lost their openers to teams from BCS conferences by an average of 41 points. Defending Sun Belt champion Troy lost to Bowling Green, while Louisiana-Lafayette and Arkansas State routed lesser opponents. North Texas did look much better in a 20-10 victory over rebuilding Ball State.


Then there is THIS: SurveyMagnet.com » Guest Blogger Opinion from Anthony Stalter: Who Plays The Best College Football?

Here too:http://http://www.pubclub.com/collegefootball/conferences.htm (broken link)

Thats just 4 of the many that came up unquestionably ranking the SEC the best undisputed conference.Its NOT overrated.
OVERALL, the SEC is overated. Florida is a GREAT team, LSU is a GREAT team, but OVERALL the SEC is overrated. The SEC rides the coattails of Florida and LSU. That's why there overrated. Those Vanderbilt students chanting SEC, because of there own teams shortcomings, comes to mind when I think of the SEC. Just coatriding there conference. And alot of people out here in the east that go to school in the ACC love to criticize the Big12 and do the same Tim Tebow, SEC band wagoning, just because they happen to be geographically close to the SEC schools. It's sickening to me.
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Old 09-25-2009, 04:44 AM
 
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OVERALL, the SEC is overated. Florida is a GREAT team, LSU is a GREAT team, but OVERALL the SEC is overrated. The SEC rides the coattails of Florida and LSU. That's why there overrated. Those Vanderbilt students chanting SEC, because of there own teams shortcomings, comes to mind when I think of the SEC. Just coatriding there conference. And alot of people out here in the east that go to school in the ACC love to criticize the Big12 and do the same Tim Tebow, SEC band wagoning, just because they happen to be geographically close to the SEC schools. It's sickening to me.
Oh so Tennessee and Georgia,Alabama and Auburn are not great teams?You need to go take a nap or something because you seem to be suffering from some type of malady like sleep deprivation!You not thinking straight!!LOL!!
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