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Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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It's good you added density, population, and what cities. It keeps it from being vague and from being closed down by the moderators (the thread).
1. NYC
2. LA
3. Chicago
4. Houston
5. Philadelphia
6. Boston
7. San Francisco
8. Seattle
9 Miami
10. Atlanta
I really don't care about density, never really was into it, don't care to be into it now. I like cities for what they have not how tightly together it's grouped or how many people can fit on the same block.
That's not a competition, IMHO.
I like this opinion. I never understood why density is so highly rated here. It really isn't something special. Yes density can get you more walkability and justify more public transportation but density can also create many other problems. For example driving and parking is usually much more of a pain in a dense neighborhood. Besides walkability can be walkability inside a mall. In a way stores in a mall are denser and more walkable than any street outside. I don't particularly like malls but just saying. I have no preference shopping in a mall or in a street under or near those office buildings not related to me in any way. America is not short of land. Some parts of the world are but America is really not. It needs to have some dense cities in the areas where flat land is luxury, but in other parts really it is just a tradeoff and what the city wants. There is no superiority of dense cities over less dense cities.
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Originally Posted by OmShahi
I really don't care about density, never really was into it, don't care to be into it now. I like cities for what they have not how tightly together it's grouped or how many people can fit on the same block.
That's not a competition, IMHO.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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I like this opinion. I never understood why density is so highly rated here. It really isn't something special. Yes density can get you more walkability and justify more public transportation but density can also create many other problems. For example driving and parking is usually much more of a pain in a dense neighborhood. Besides walkability can be walkability inside a mall. In a way stores in a mall are denser than any street outside. I don't particularly like malls but just saying. I have no preference shopping in a mall or in a street under or near those office buildings. America is not short of land. Some parts of the world are but America is really not. It needs to have some dense cities in the areas where flat land is luxury, but in other parts really it is just a tradeoff.
I honestly can't see Los Angeles being as dense as it's North California counter part San Francisco. It would completely ruin the significance of the city.
People say sprawl is a bad thing, I don't think so. Miles and miles of coastal beaches, mountain environment, a downtown in the mix, Hollywood. I like how everything is in it's own place and not put together so closely packed that it feels/looks like a push-and-shove situation.
Density works wonders for San Fran, some cities are great with it, other's aren't but have their own unique thing going on.
Besides LA is getting denser, the larger it's population gets, the denser it becomes, even though stereotypically it isn't viewed as "dense", it still is above average in density.
The thing about LA is that it isn't as urban as SF but it is still very dense. The way they pack single family houses into neighborhoods in that city to the point where you can crawl through your neighbors window. It reminds me of Miami.
Its never really been a problem here in Texas though because land is so cheap & readily available. In places like NYC, SF, Chicago, Miami, DC, or LA I can see where density might be needed because they are limited by natural barriers, but here its just not necessary. Now that's not to say I don't like seeing walkable urban environments. I do & its happening in Texas. Will we ever be on the level of those other cities as far as density, no & that's fine by me.
Its never really been a problem here in Texas though because land is so cheap & readily available. In places like NYC, SF, Chicago, Miami, DC, or LA I can see where density might be needed because they are limited by natural barriers, but here its just not necessary. Now that's not to say I don't like seeing walkable urban environments. I do & its happening in Texas. Will we ever be on the level of those other cities as far as density, no & that's fine by me.
Wouldn't be so quick to say no. I see Houston and Dallas reaching where LA is now and LA is continuing to grow inside it's city limits.
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. Philadelphia
4. Boston
5. San Fran
6. DC
7. Baltimore
8. Pittsburgh
9. San Diego (my oddball on density but is on the coast and can't beat the weather plus La Jolla)
10. Seattle
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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There's a lot of pros when it comes to density.
Mass transportation, walkability, job opportunity, a wider variety of eats/shopping.
Look at Manhattan!
Of course density has its cons (like lack of nature), but it's not just the idea of having a lot of people in one area.
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. Philadelphia
4. Houston
5. Dallas
6. Los Angeles
7. San Antonio
8. San Diego
9. Phoenix
10. San Jose
Density as is.
BP, normally I agree with your posts, but I find it necessary to ask, San Antonio above San Deigo?
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