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Old 09-08-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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With these huge advantages, why is no one even discussing Amazon down there? Or at least itself that CIN is way better than COL and CLE.
Well it's all over the news here. Multiple newspaper and TV news stories.
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:15 PM
 
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Well it's all over the news here. Multiple newspaper and TV news stories.
What a shock: this story is on local TV news and in the papers. Um, it's pretty much on any decent sized city's local media as well.

Is that where you got CIN's selling points: empty Delta Hub, Kroger is there, Macy's is there, and there is what you call a streetcar ''system''?

Has the Jan Brady of Ohio Cities syndrome kicked-in yet down there?

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Old 09-08-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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This bigger list still has Cleveland and Cincy:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.25688784b43e
Guess what? Bezos owns the Washington Post.

Bezos is nobody's fool and is well aware of the reality of climate change. That likely eliminates Florida and arguably any eastern coastal states. These states individually likely will have to bear much of the cost of global climate change in coming decades as the burden is too large for even the federal government. The eastern coast is subsiding making climate change a much greater problem on the East Coast than the West Coast. Global warming may increasingly make southern states very, very unpleasant places.

Florida may have to institute an income tax to deal with upcoming financial calamity represented by Hurricane Irma. Illinois and Chicago are fiscal basket cases.

https://www.wired.com/2015/11/zucker...rgy-coalition/

Assuming Bezos wants a low-cost destination to offset the high costs of operating in Seattle, knock out San Francisco and Los Angeles, especially given CA tax rates.

Using these additional criteria, and Cleveland actually fares pretty well. Apart from Case Western, nothing would prevent Amazon from cherry-picking talent from Carnegie Mellon, Big Ten schools, etc. Cleveland's proximity to excellent educational centers is a plus offered by few cities.

Employee housing dollars would go a very long way in Cleveland's very low cost housing market, and Amazon employees also would have pro sports, parks, and cultural institutions that would top all but a handful of cities on the list.

Consider also that Cleveland is the center of content marketing, and has no worries about water supply.

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Points I would be emphasizing to Bezos if I were Cleveland development officials.

Although I detest JobsOhio, it has a history of massively subsidizing Amazon projects in Ohio.

One advantage that northeastern Ohio has over Cincinnati, apart from the widely recognized superiority of its mass transit system, is the superiority of its junior college system, as it actually is financed by local tax levies, unlike in Cincinnati. The combination of Case Western, the highest ranked Ohio university, John Carroll University, Cleveland State, University of Akron, and Kent State, to say nothing of liberal arts schools like Oberlin, offers a strong network of universities.

https://www.csuohio.edu/news/csu-and...nternet-things

Cleveland offers world-class medical care through the famed Cleveland Clinic and the University Hospitals system. Some have speculated that Amazon is targeting healthcare as a major growth initiative, and Cleveland would be a perfect location for this initiative, especially given the presence of the underutilized Global Center for Health Innovation.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/26/amaz...h-project.html

http://www.theglobalcenter.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global...lth_Innovation

The IBM Explorys division and other high-tech medical software companies, such as Hyland, call Cleveland home.

https://www.ibm.com/watson/health/explorys/

Cleveland's Midtown/Opportunity Corridor would offer a magnificent location along one of the world's most acclaimed bus rapids.

http://www.riderta.com/news/healthli...d-best-brt-usa

Likely a new Red Line station with service to the airport could be added, connected by shuttles to the new Amazon headquarters.

Cleveland likely represents a unique opportunity with a large redevelopment area located between a significant downtown and a world-class cultural center with good mass transit already in place.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/c...n/default.aspx

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...ject_to_b.html

https://www.hyland.com/en/what-we-do

http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news...-700-employees

http://fortune.com/best-companies/hyland/

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Old 09-08-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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What a shock: this story is on local TV news and in the papers. Um, it's pretty much on any decent sized city's local media as well.

Is that where you got CIN's selling points: empty Delta Hub, Kroger is there, Macy's is there, and there is what you call a streetcar ''system''?

Has the Jan Brady of Ohio Cities syndrome kicked-in yet down there?



Moving the goalposts since you need more attention.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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Discussing this from the standpoint of clear logistics, Cleveland easily wins. It's a port city that's within a 500 mile radius of 180 million people whose metro area already supports 9, Fortune 500 global headquarters. It's essentially half way between 2 of the 3 largest cities in the country on a straight Interstate and rail line. If Amazon's junior HQ ever even sniffs reality, United would re-open Concourse D at CLE and add flights in a heartbeat.

Of course, in the end, it's going to go to whichever area provides the sweetest deal.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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Cincinnati's mayor on CNBC today:
Cincinnati mayor: We'll be very agressive with tax incentives to get Amazon


Cleveland has no logistical advantage over Columbus and certainly not Cincinnati, which has the Prime Air Hub. Amazon plans worldwide cargo hub, 2,700 jobs at CVG
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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Moving the goalposts since you need more attention.
Thanks! You're so perceptive.

Seriously, start a CIN thread on this Amazon issue. Lots of forums are doing it.
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:03 PM
 
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Cincinnati's mayor on CNBC today:
Cincinnati mayor: We'll be very agressive with tax incentives to get Amazon


Cleveland has no logistical advantage over Columbus and certainly not Cincinnati, which has the Prime Air Hub. Amazon plans worldwide cargo hub, 2,700 jobs at CVG
here we go...most cities are trying to get this project..open a CIN thread...go away.
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:13 PM
 
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Cincinnati's mayor on CNBC today:
Cincinnati mayor: We'll be very agressive with tax incentives to get Amazon


Cleveland has no logistical advantage over Columbus and certainly not Cincinnati, which has the Prime Air Hub. Amazon plans worldwide cargo hub, 2,700 jobs at CVG
Logistics shouldn't be an issue for a headquarters city. Top-notch cultural institutions, pro sports, etc., should be bigger concerns.

Another advantage for Cleveland, its IT infrastructure is very robust, with downtown rewired for the Republican National Convention, facilitated by the reconstruction of Public Square in the heart of downtown.

Cleveland prepares to 'light up' 100-gig Internet service, the nation's fastest | cleveland.com

ATT invested $350 million in its downtown Cleveland infrastructure in preparation for the Republican National Convention.

<<
AT&T spent some $350 million dollars building out their Cleveland area network over the last 3 years and Grzybicki says most of this year’s investment will be left behind.
“In and around the perimeter I’m sure there will be a couple temporary towers that we’ll put up but that’s the extent of it. In terms of the outdoor antenna systems, the indoor antenna systems, the upgrades that we’re making at the cell towers- those are all permanent. Obviously the fiber is all permanent. The vast majority of what we’re doing is here to stay.”>>

http://www.ideastream.org/news/repub...d-better-wired
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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Discussing this from the standpoint of clear logistics, Cleveland easily wins. It's a port city that's within a 500 mile radius of 180 million people whose metro area already supports 9, Fortune 500 global headquarters. It's essentially half way between 2 of the 3 largest cities in the country on a straight Interstate and rail line. If Amazon's junior HQ ever even sniffs reality, United would re-open Concourse D at CLE and add flights in a heartbeat.

Of course, in the end, it's going to go to whichever area provides the sweetest deal.
I'm not sure if distribution area would matter as much in locating a HQ, but if it does, they'd probably go Chicago over Cleveland in that respect. I'm betting they'll either choose an existing tech powerhouse area like Charlotte or one with an ingrained subway system, like Boston or Chicago.
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