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Old 02-06-2011, 12:10 AM
 
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From February 2011:

Four Years of College Isn't for Everyone, Harvard Study Says - Bloomberg

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The “college for all” movement has produced only incremental gains as other nations leapfrog the United States, and the country is failing to prepare millions of young people to become employable adults...
Personally, I've ALWAYS been against the "college for all" movement. It's full of delusions and it's probably a brainchild of the student loan industry.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I think it is dumb. I think higher education, hell, the entire education system needs to be changed. I think four year degrees should be graduate school prep. People not interested in grad school should go for a one year certificate or a two year associates degree that focus on the skills required for a career and not a broad liberal arts focus like a bachelors degree.

P.S. Thanks for the common sense study Harvard.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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College is also better for some after a few years out in the real world instead of straight out of high school.
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Everyone should have the chance to go to college if they are able to handle it.
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:37 AM
 
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College is also better for some after a few years out in the real world instead of straight out of high school.
Agreed.

Frankly, I think by age 16, some children should be fazed out of high school and put into trade apprenticeships or similar programs. I don't see why a kid should be forced to take two more basically useless years of high school if they clearly have no interest in college.
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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Everyone should have the chance to go to college if they are able to handle it.
For what? They still can't get jobs. They (or their parents) end up owing tens of thousands of dollars AND THEY STILL CAN'T GET A JOB.

Young adults finish with their 17 years of education with absolutely no survival skills to manage their lives on their own.

If a young adult ends up back living with Mom and Dad, plays video games or lives the night life with friends, what good is college but a waste of time and money? AND THEY STILL CAN'T GET A JOB.
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:16 AM
 
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The world needs medical professionals, legal professionals, engineers, architects, scientists, teachers, designers and business professionals.

But it also needs janitors, construction workers, electricians, plumbers, truck drivers, farm workers, repairmen, short order cooks, shelf stockers, cashiers and wait staff.

I think that the 'college for all' concept is driven by the educational community - the more students headed for college, the more need for teachers to prepare them for college and the more need for college professors to teach them.
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Old 02-06-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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College is not for everyone, seems to be the consensus here. Unfortunately, it has come down to the fact that there are so many unemployed bachelor degree holders that you have to have a bachelors to get past the HR screening process just get an interview.
I have seen a few places require a bachelor requirement for an administrative assistant position for chrissakes. You NEVER saw that before.
Everyone needs some extra trade school or a certificate or an associates at least, but some other type of education. HS is definitely not enough anymore to make a decent living. Even if you plan to be self employed, you need to know finances, marketing, etc and the best way to get that is to take a couple classes at your local community college.
Besides, things change SO FAST nowadays, chances are what you learn with your degree now, will be completely invalid 20 years from now, thus the need for continual professional development, no matter what career you choose.
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:20 AM
 
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College for everyone is moronic and all it does is lower the usefulness/value of a degree. (And make schools alot of money)
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Michissippi
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Personally, I've ALWAYS been against the "college for all" movement. It's full of delusions and it's probably a brainchild of the student loan industry.
What the higher education peddlers don't realize is that even if 100% of the populace went to college, we wouldn't have nearly enough college-education-requiring jobs for everyone. Instead we would end up having the world's most highly-educated truck drivers, waitresses, and Walmart and McDonalds employees. After the 10-15% of jobs that actually make use of a college education are filled, all higher education does is for society is to just rearrange the deck chairs on our nation's economic Titanic (at great economic expense).
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