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Some are, but just as many new jobs open up stateside.
Bottom line is outsourcing hasn't proven to be anywhere near the threat it is called out to be by many, there are still plenty of jobs and good money to be made.
Not my field but, seems like the H1B issue is more concerning than outsourcing.
To say the Calc series is baby math is very outlandish. Calculus is not baby math. It's a very rigorous subject. It's bearable and doesn't make the world end, but it's a tough subject nonetheless.
By the way, the math courses required for CS and engineering are enough to declare a math minor at some universities.
Sure they are, with the caveat that I'm talking about legitimate BS programs and not BS programs at low quality institutions that merely masquerade as BS programs. Though, the discrete math requirement is fairly unique to computer science and electrical engineering.
Regardless, the mathematics requirements in computer science departments is rather basic, its baby math. Its hard to understand how such rudimentary mathematics would make computer science programs "tough"....
Ok "education a lot" what is your profession? Internet genius or something
From most of the posts I have read it seems to me that almost everyone is suggesting that the math in a computer science program is what makes it tough. Aren't the computer science course also tough and I think there are a couple of natural science courses in the program also. What about all those?
In addition as tough as the program sounds to be here I still hear a about a lot of people who come out with high g.p.a's in it (3.6 and above). I felt it was a quite easy program because of this fact but I guess its not as easy as it seems. I really think the opinion is divided
In terms of difficulty, it's pretty much like any other engineering degree. Math and physics will be used as weed-out courses. Engineering calculus, while not the most advanced math at the undergrad level, is still demanding. If someone can sleep through the entire calc sequence, then they should be smart enough to test out of it altogether. Funny how they rarely do.
Unless the school is bottom of the barrel (not in the top 100) then you can get a good undergrad education pretty much anywhere. If you look at class makeup at top 10 engineering grad schools, most students are coming from random public undergrad programs anyway. Granted, most of them probably went the extra mile as undergrad and took honors courses or did outside research. The curriculum and quality of undergrad engineering/compsci programs is roughly the same across the board.
Once beyond the freshman year classes, getting an engineering degree is largely a reflection of time management and maturity.
In addition as tough as the program sounds to be here I still hear a about a lot of people who come out with high g.p.a's in it (3.6 and above). I felt it was a quite easy program because of this fact but I guess its not as easy as it seems. I really think the opinion is divided
That's because the kids getting 3.3 and below don't talk about their grades. There's also a tendency for nerd-types to focus on things like GPA/SAT scores /academic honors, which are mostly irrelevant in the working world.
Never ceases to amaze me that you will see job candidates with a 3.8 GPA, with minimal summer work experience. Meanwhile, you see a kid with 3.4 with tangible work experience. Take a wild guess who will get the job offer.
To say the Calc series is baby math is very outlandish. Calculus is not baby math. It's a very rigorous subject.
Why is it outlandish? Calculus is very rudimentary mathematics and its the bottom of the barrel in terms of university math courses, the only exception would be community colleges and similar low quality institutions that let people take high-school level mathematics courses to "catch up".
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By the way, the math courses required for CS and engineering are enough to declare a math minor at some universities.
Really where? What university awards a mathematics minor for just taking introductory mathematics courses? Now that would be outlandish....
From most of the posts I have read it seems to me that almost everyone is suggesting that the math in a computer science program is what makes it tough.
Which should be correctly understood as statements regarding their low amplitude in mathematics, the real question here is your particular amplitude for the subject. Asking others how tough they find computer science isn't going to tell you how tough it is for you. You are an individual, you have particular talents and weakness, the question is whether your particular intellectual make-up is a good fit for computer science.
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