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I'm a millennial, and my friends that studied computers have high paying 6 figure jobs straight out of school. Those that didn't, are either in grad school or have jobs not at all related to their degree.
I will say though that some CS programs are quite outdated, and might not result in a decent job though.
There are other jobs. Lots, even. Whether or not you are competitive enough an applicant, or whether circumstances align properly to be hired for them constitutes the real unknown.
You might not get a six-figure job out of school. Most people don't. You do recognize that life is still liveable even without getting hired for a position earning six figures out of college, though, correct?
I'm a millennial, and my friends that studied computers have high paying 6 figure jobs straight out of school. Those that didn't, are either in grad school or have jobs not at all related to their degree.
I will say though that some CS programs are quite outdated, and might not result in a decent job though.
What about the other STEM jobs? I think a lot of our generation is in programming because that is what we are interested. I know I am, but I am just as interested in physics, as I am with computer science and electrical engineering.
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Originally Posted by TabulaRasa
There are other jobs. Lots, even. Whether or not you are competitive enough an applicant, or whether circumstances align properly to be hired for them constitutes the real unknown.
You might not get a six-figure job out of school. Most people don't. You do recognize that life is still liveable even without getting hired for a position earning six figures out of college, though, correct?
How do we build systems for the computer to be able to understand the outside physical world? What do we have to know in order to be able to do that?
Let's say you want to build a cybernetic system but one that is psychology based. What do you need to know in order to do that? Or perhaps it is an expert system to be used in the investigation of house fires. If all you do is know how to program, will you be able to get the necessary information from the client to make an efficient program?
A simple problem. I want you to build me an interface with ARCGIS so that for an oil spill here, I want to know where the central point of the slick will be in 8 hours for the given wind and current. Or perhaps I want you to build me a code break system which, for the start, uses the Caesar cipher (and we get more complex from there).
The point is that unless, at least, there is someone on the team who understands the world from more than just a programming standpoint, it is bound to be very inefficient and frustrating. It is far easier to take a discipline, say genetics, and train someone in it to be a programer than the other way around.
If everyone was a software developer... We'd never progress in the girls. We need computer scientists, mathematicians, and designers.
If everyone was an English major, at least we would understand them.
I think what you are trying to say is that because the majority of software developers are male that we wouldn't be helping women by making them become software developers. I find your statement borderline sexist because the reality is that schools are trying to make everyone technically literate and we need both sexes to participate.
The whole thread is silly. We need all kinds of people and what types of jobs are hot now may not be hot in ten or fifteen years. It's really hard when you are starting in college to know for sure what to go for as a young adult. If you hate math you probably should not go into a math related field. A good life is not defined as how much money you make.
I'm a millennial, and my friends that studied computers have high paying 6 figure jobs straight out of school. Those that didn't, are either in grad school or have jobs not at all related to their degree.
I will say though that some CS programs are quite outdated, and might not result in a decent job though.
That's where the jobs and pay is... right now. Don't forget about the dot com bust around 2000. Fortunately we are on the upswing right now. But who knows how long that will last.
Well if you watch Star Trek then apparently everyone in the future is either a mechanical/electric engineer with a massive comprehension of Astrophysics.....a Doctor or a Space Ship crew member who is also well versed in Astrophysics. Oh or a red shirt that dies.
At every point in an emerging economy there is a growth phase that requires skill in a particular field. They key is to know which field will be emerging so that you can be the next Steve Jobs or Henry Ford.
Computer science grads are paid well but I haven't seen any data that says a bachelor's degree CS earns 6 figures. Even Stanford. I'd say $65K is more likely right now from a well know college.
Top earning bachelor's degrees for a while now are probably petroleum and chemical engineers. They can easily earn $80K or more right out of school. That is crazy pay for a 22 year old.
We do not need more history or English majors. If we didn't graduate any more for ten years the ones working at Starbucks now might be absorbed into better jobs.
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