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So far I've only been regularly watching Ali Velshi on AJ who has the ability to pack a lot into a short program. He explains issues that are perhaps underreported, and how they impact you. Sure, it's a financial show, but unlike others. Often hot issues in the standard US media don't make total sense until you notice the money trail.
I do intend to watch more AJ. Most US news these days is just silly.
Reasonable question. The reason I posted this thread now is because only recently has AJ become somewhat mainstreamed into the the US.
Speak for yourself here. Al Jazeera was one of the few rational sources for information concerning for instance the US invasion of Iraq. That was ten years ago. It may be true of course that many here were simply too snookered by the rah-rah channels to have either noticed or cared. You would at the time have been slandered as an America-hater if you so much as mentioned al Jazeera, after all.
I do intend to watch more AJ. Most US news these days is just silly.
Which US news sources do you find to be the exceptions. For myself, aside from a few academic and scholarly journals, there doesn't appear to be much news in the US that isn't some variant or derivative of silly partisan propaganda.
I've no idea how AJ will cover 9/11, that said as awful and sad as 9/11 was and we must never forget it's going to be 12 years, it's time to move on a bit and let the families heal which is kind of hard to do when every year we make a huge to do down in lower NYC opening up all the heartache and sorrow again...
What exactly do you the o/p want from AJ as far as 9/11 memorial coverage??
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Actually I was kind of surprised by this response, especially by someone who lives pretty close to GZ. While I don't think what your saying is wrong, from what I know from a couple of those families (as I live in the NY metropolitan area too), they DON'T want the huge to-dos to disappear; if anything, they're afraid if they do, 9/11 will be "forgotten" faster and disappear from people's memories.
If anything I hear what you are saying more from people NOT directly affected by 9/11, things like, "it's 12 years, haven't they had enough already?", "do we need to keep being reminded of this, let's move on", etc.
In that sense, I think going through the decades, it will play out in terms of public consciousness pretty much the same way Pearl Harbor played out.......
I put on AJA to see what, if anything, they reported in 9/11/01. The top of the hour just started and in the "Top News" not even a mention of 9/11 was said. That tells me all I need to know.
I say we need MORE programs on about 9/11. We need to see those poor souls falling to their deaths. We need to see the clip of two Arabs jumping for joy when the plane hit. We need to keep our anger alive. Our government, the terrorists and liberals want us to forget. We need to NEVER FORGET.
I put on AJA to see what, if anything, they reported in 9/11/01. The top of the hour just started and in the "Top News" not even a mention of 9/11 was said. That tells me all I need to know.
I say we need MORE programs on about 9/11. We need to see those poor souls falling to their deaths. We need to see the clip of two Arabs jumping for joy when the plane hit. We need to keep our anger alive. Our government, the terrorists and liberals want us to forget. We need to NEVER FORGET.
But do you honestly think that anyone is in danger of forgetting 9/11? At this point, 9/11 is history. All it is now is a yearly reopening of the wound, full of gnashing of teeth and rending of clothing. America needs to focus on the future and the issues that affect our country now without being overly maudlin about the past.
I'm sure Al Jazeera will cover the memorial services and moments of silence, but other than that it's not breaking news.
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But do you honestly think that anyone is in danger of forgetting 9/11? At this point, 9/11 is history. All it is now is a yearly reopening of the wound, full of gnashing of teeth and rending of clothing. America needs to focus on the future and the issues that affect our country now without being overly maudlin about the past.
I'm sure Al Jazeera will cover the memorial services and moments of silence, but other than that it's not breaking news.
Of course I don't think anyone will forget 9/11 but too many lefties are trying to sweep it under the rug and MAKE us be PC about those factions who are trying to KILL US. I know not ALL Middle Easteners are terrorists or think like them but until the day I die, I will never trust one again. Nor should any of us. We must be vigilant and keep our eyes and ears open.
The issues that face our country NOW are STILL those that want to blow us all off the face of this planet. What about that is so hard to understand?
I put on AJA to see what, if anything, they reported in 9/11/01. The top of the hour just started and in the "Top News" not even a mention of 9/11 was said. That tells me all I need to know.
I say we need MORE programs on about 9/11. We need to see those poor souls falling to their deaths. We need to see the clip of two Arabs jumping for joy when the plane hit. We need to keep our anger alive. Our government, the terrorists and liberals want us to forget. We need to NEVER FORGET.
I remember, I think on 20/20, with Barbara Walters, there were Israelis jumping for joy when the planes hit, too. There was even an attempt to track those people down, but when the guys found out they scurried into Israel and the investigation stopped at that point.
There were all sorts of crazy things going on. Look at the people who were wanted by someone and feigned being killed in the towers and the people who tried to collect money for those who died (but really did not). Gosh, that would make a good book - 'Nine Eleven Scammers'.
It appears as though, now, we have a common ground with Russia, who also has problems with radical Muslims. Putin warned us of the Boston bombers, which we seemed not to take seriously, just like all the warnings that we had of 911 that were ignored.
It seems as though we are forgetting, doesn't it? Look at the support the Muslim Brotherhood got from some elements in this country - and how their election to office in Egypt ended up. Now, we are told that the insurgents in Syria are rife with radical Muslims, yet that's the side we want to support. Even though Assad is no good, sometimes the enemy you know is preferable to the one that you don't?
I remember, I think on 20/20, with Barbara Walters, there were Israelis jumping for joy when the planes hit, too. There was even an attempt to track those people down, but when the guys found out they scurried into Israel and the investigation stopped at that point.
There were all sorts of crazy things going on. Look at the people who were wanted by someone and feigned being killed in the towers and the people who tried to collect money for those who died (but really did not). Gosh, that would make a good book - 'Nine Eleven Scammers'.
It appears as though, now, we have a common ground with Russia, who also has problems with radical Muslims. Putin warned us of the Boston bombers, which we seemed not to take seriously, just like all the warnings that we had of 911 that were ignored.
It seems as though we are forgetting, doesn't it? Look at the support the Muslim Brotherhood got from some elements in this country - and how their election to office in Egypt ended up. Now, we are told that the insurgents in Syria are rife with radical Muslims, yet that's the side we want to support. Even though Assad is no good, sometimes the enemy you know is preferable to the one that you don't?
How did they know they were Israelis? If they "scurried into Israel", wouldn't that maybe make them Arabs? Israel has lots of Arabs on the West Bank.
I've heard of some scammers but not people faking they were killed in the Towers.
Yes, I completely agree that bombing Syria would be a grave mistake. WTH is Obummer thinking? He wants to "save face", show he is so powerful that he would let the very same people we are trying to protect ourselves from get into power because of us??? "National security"...BS. The gassing has NOTHING to do with our security. No one knows who caused the gassing. I heard reports that it was militants making the bombs and had an accident. What better way to turn the world against Assad than to blame him? Maybe he did it. We'll never know the truth.
I predict this will send Kerry into the White House as POTUS because his off handed comment was so good! Who knows, maybe he'd be okay. I just don't like him because he lied about throwing away his medals back in the 60's. He did. I remember.
I wonder if they ever tracked down those two Arabs who were jumping for joy as the second plane hit? Their faces were clearly distinguishable.
How did they know they were Israelis? If they "scurried into Israel", wouldn't that maybe makhe them Arabs? Israel has lots of Arabs on the West Bank.
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I am trying to remember now, and it was a long time ago and it is not something that was repeated, although there was an article on the internet concerning it.
There was a woman who had an apartment in New Jersey that faced the towers. Her friend called her about the planes. She goes to the window and sees the burning towers and underneath her are two (or more?) men with a commercial van. They are jumping up and down and hugging each other and jumping up on top of the van to look again and jumping down and doing little dances. She takes a camera and gets a picture of all of this, including the lettering on the van and maybe the license plate number.
There is a lot of convoluted stuff going on - the police get involved. They call the federal gvmt. The feds get involved and then they back off for some odd reason. The police, I think, are the ones who find the business that employs the men. By the time the cops come to interview the business the owners have left - and quickly with things left undone. They employees are also gone to Israel and that's the end of the trail. Nowhere did anyone say they were Palestinians. I think the investigation would not have been called off had they been Palestinians.
Some articles say these men were Mossad agents and the business was a front. This might explain why the feds dropped the case.
Google 'men dancing during 911 in New Jersey'.
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Who knows, maybe he'd be okay. I just don't like him because he lied about throwing away his medals back in the 60's. He did. I remember.
