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Old 03-11-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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From USA Today--


(Quote)KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysia's military said Tuesday that a missing jet was hundreds of miles off course an hour after it vanished from civilian radar, deepening the mystery of what happened to the flight with 239 people aboard.

Gen. Rodzali Daud told Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper that military radar picked up the location of the Boeing 777 several hundred miles to the west of its intended flight path to Beijing.

If accurate, that would mean the plane flew for about an hour away in the opposite direction of its flight path without communicating to civilian radar or radio communications.

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The airliner last transmitted a signal to civilian aviation authorities over the Gulf of Thailand, east of Malaysia and south of Vietnam, about 1:30 a.m., or roughly an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur.

But the Malaysian military said that at 2:40 a.m. the jet was far to the west over the Malacca Strait. Daud said the aircraft was near Pulau Perak, an island more than 100 miles off the western shore of Malaysia.

"After that, the signal from the plane was lost," Daud told the newspaper. (End Quote)

If this is true, then they should be looking on the WEST coast of Malaysia, not the east coast.

From the U.K. Telegraph:

Our US correspondent David Millward has reported that American transport officials warned of a potential weak spot in Boeing 777s which could lead to the "loss of structural integrity of the aircraft" four months before the disappearance of Malaysiaairlines Flight MH370.
The Federal Aviation Administration in Washington drew up an Airworthiness Directive in November. It was triggered by reports of cracking in the fuselage skin underneath a Boeing aircraft's satellite antennae.
In its directive the FAA, which is responsible for supervising the safety of American-made aircraft such as Boeing, told airlines to look out for corrosion under the fuselage skin.
This, the FAA said, could lead to a situation where the fuselage was compromised leading to possible rapid decompression as well as the plane breaking up.
With terrorism now appearing less likely as a cause of the Malaysian airlines disaster, which claimed 239 lives, focus has switched to problems with the aircraft or pilot error.


If this is true, the "rapid decompression"--could that lead to those aboard passing out and the plane flying until it hit ground or water?
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:17 PM
 
Location: southern california
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The thing that Americans cannot cannot grasp when you leave America u r no longer in Kansas Dorothy
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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Well now they are definitely saying the plane veered west to the Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels which runs along Malaysia's west coast. If this is such a busy shipping area, how come nothing has been spotted in that area?

Malaysia military source says missing jet veered to west | Reuters
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: NW AR
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Actually, it's starting to look like some of this is true. The plane was spotted flying very low over a small island that's a military base. The witness did not report an explosion, so at this point it can be assumed the plane landed safely and passengers survived the landing. What happened next is wide open, at this point.
That's what all my calculations added up to. So, where is this island? And what military base are we talking about? So are you telling me I was right about the aircraft carrier in the water ( representing military) or a landing strip by the ocean? Or Both?

I already knew the 2 hours (well not exactly two) and 7 hours of gas didn't go to together. and felt like they had less fuel, So, if they started out with 7 hours,, and then got off coarse for an hour.. that would make sense.

So where is this island and military?
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:50 PM
 
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A commercial jet could not land on an aircraft carrier. Even a small fighter jet cannot land on one without an arresting hook.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: NW AR
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A commercial jet could not land on an aircraft carrier. Even a small fighter jet cannot land on one without an arresting hook.
I know that but an aircraft carrier REPRESENTS a military connection. SO, what military base are we talking about?

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Old 03-11-2014, 06:28 PM
 
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From USA Today--


(Quote)KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia —
With terrorism now appearing less likely as a cause of the Malaysian airlines disaster, which claimed 239 lives, focus has switched to problems with the aircraft or pilot error.


If this is true, the "rapid decompression"--could that lead to those aboard passing out and the plane flying until it hit ground or water?
USA Today is jumping the gun. As far as anyone knows, there has been no disaster, and no lives have been claimed. The plane still hasn't been found. It was last seen flying very low over the water in front of "Silver Island" (Pulau Perak), belonging to Malaysia. The report below says the island is too small to have anything on it. It's not clear what lies beyond the island. Search efforts have been moved to that region.

From the Telegraph: (excerpt)


However, planes with sensors so sensitive they can spot objects as small as basketballs have failed to find any trace of the plane.
Now the focus of the search has switched the other side of the country, after the Malaysian military said its radars had detected the plane changing course, crossing over Malaysia and heading west above the Malacca Strait, one of the world’s busiest shipping channels.
“The last time the flight was detected close to Pulau Perak, in the Melaka Straits, at 2.40am by the control tower before the signal was lost,” said Rodzali Daud, the head of Malaysia’s air force to the Berita Harian newspaper. He added that the jet was flying at around 30,000ft.
Pulau Perak, or Silver Island, is a tiny rock in the middle of the Strait that marks Malaysia’s westernmost point.
Search teams have so far failed to find any sign of the plane in the Malacca Strait and were yesterday extending the radius of their sweep.
If the report from the military is verified, Flight MH370 continued at a cruising altitude for at least another 350 miles with its transponder and other tracking systems off.
Police said that their investigation was “focusing on four areas: hijacking, sabotage, psychological problems of the passengers and crew and personal problems among the passengers and crew”.
Other investigators are still looking at the possibility of mechanical failure.
“We have been going through all the passenger manifest, we have communicated with our counterparts in at least 14 countries and also from other parts of the world and we have been exchanging information and intelligence,” said Mr Bakar.
Villagers from near Marang, on Malaysia’s eastern coast, told police they had heard a “loud and frightening noise” at around 1.20am on Saturday morning.
Alias Salleh, a 36-year-old lorry driver told Malaysia’s The Sun Daily, he and friends had run towards the source of the noise, “but did not see anything unusual.”
The noise sounded like “the fan of a jet engine,” Mr Salleh added.
Mohd Yusri Mohd Yusof, a 34-year-old villager, said: “My friends and I heard the ringing noise for about two minutes.”

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Old 03-11-2014, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Doubt it was terrorists, since nobody is taking credit. More likely the plane was confiscated by a government or some other powerful group. They wanted something or someone on the plane. Which brings us back to North Korea, the only place I think would be capable of hiding a confiscation like that.
I'm starting to suspect the same thing. I suppose you could call it terrorism but it seems like the plane was hijacked and flown somewhere. Why would they bother turning off the transponder and then flying the opposite direction if they just wanted to crash the plane? Lil' Kim is just crazy enough try hiding an entire plane for who knows what reason.

It sounds like a Tom Clancy novel. I know.
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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Which page discusses the Mario Belloteli statement?
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:59 PM
 
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Here's another update. Oddly, it says Malaysian gov't officials may have already visited the crash site, said to be near Malaysia's westernmost island, Pulau Perak.

Earlier today the official narrative on the search for MH370 began to fall apart. As it did intelligence sources in Europe and the US were briefing their media that the loss of the flight did not look like the work of terrorists, although reporters were cautioned not to completely dismiss the possibility of evidence to the contrary emerging.

That advice has dire potential for Malaysia Airlines on legal and commercial levels. Those risks to be fair to the airline remain to be resolved, despite the Malaysia police chief making the startling and unprompted declaration earlier today (Tuesday) that the mental state of passengers and crew on MH370 was being investigated.


http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...sh-site-today/
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