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Obama is burned out. He has been stymied on all fronts by a recalcitrant congress.
He tried to do the right thing with Obamacare, which was essentially Medicare for everyone, but that got killed. He tried to do the right thing in Iraq, but that gave us Isis. Putin is a ********, even though former president Bush liked him.
This guy has a lot on his plate, and nothing left to lose. I would not be surprised if he dropped a nuke on Isis, and ordered some nasty **** on Russia.
He had a FULL DEMOCRAT CONGRESS for the first two years.
He was busy HIDING his true long term agenda ie Amnesty, Common Core and working hard to speak like a "moderate".
Well, for the most part. He actually promised to DESTROY the energy industry specifically coal and BOOST our energy expenses if we DARED to support that industry. While he was busy hypnotizing Millennials with flowery language about "stopping the waters from rising".
He has created EXTENSIVE bureaucratic UNELECTED officials enacting choking REGULATIONS without any Congressional oversight.
He didn't try and do the "right thing" with Obamacare as Gruber has proven. He tried to do his IDEOLOGICAL THING. Conservatives found that video of him YEARS before, claiming you can't just JUMP to universal coverage you have to sneak it in slowly but LIBERALS LOVED IT so denied that it meant anything.
He didn't try and do the right thing with Iraq. He tried to do his IDEOLOGICAL thing. the Military, Bush and every single Republican warned him about the Isis outcome.
Putin? Perhaps you forget Obama and his media sycophants mocking Romney for his EXACT PRECISE WARNING. As did Palin.
NO, he has not been stymied by a recalcitrant Congress. He has been stymied by his INCORRECT ARROGANT WRONG HEADED DOGMATIC INSISTENCE on Progressivism - which will NEVER WORK as proven by the past 60-100 years.
Besides, do you REALLY NOT understand that Congress does NOT EXIST to play footsie with a power grabbing Executive Branch. They are CO-EQUAL POWERS and the Senate was CREATED as the SLOWING MECHANISM to PREVENT an Obama Presidency from "fundamentally transforming America".
Jeeze, he's had the ENTIRE MEDIA except a few Conservatives here and there covering up for him and pushing HIS AGENDA for SIX YEARS!
And I'm SURE YOU"RE aware the MEDIA is supposed to be CHALLENGING THE GOVERNMENT not an ARM Of their favorite politicians and elitist academic fellow Progressives. Or did you MISS the Washingtonian magazine featuring Jay Carney and Clair Shipman's home with the framed Soviet propaganda art on the wall? Ooooh they're so ~cool. Even I THOUGHT somebody photoshopped that but never found proof that The Washingtonian is an evil right wing commie hating organization.
But take heart: Elizabeth Warren is next up on the Democrat ticket and she, IMO, may end up being a much better "seller" of Progressivism than Obama ever was. I think she's MUCH more charismatic. She's also about to repair Harry Reid's brand damaging persona in the Senate by being his talking head.
It remains to be seen if the machine will prop her up as much as Obama and if she'll get the loyal Progressive system behind her or even the speechwriters and a Valerie Jarrett type running interference. It may be too late and Obama was your ONE SHOT. Because in the long run, he NEVER would have made it without the very Fat Cats and "Wall Street" who Warren for now...claims are the enemy. And I think THE PEOPLE are really OVER IT with the ideology blocking their basic lives like BLOCKING KEYSTONE for six years while private industry and states with energy growth are providing thousands of people good, solid well paying jobs.
Obama passing Executive amnesty is a real political error, IMO, but AGAIN - he couldn't care less. It's about Progressivism and importing a replacement electorate over time. And he's actually doing the corrupt politicians a FAVOR by giving the Chamber of Commerce the CHEAP LABOR they want that is hanging up the Republicans in LIMBO - since they KNOW that the goals of business are contraindicated by the BELIEFS of the citizens. Just like Gruber said: Obama KNOWS the people don't really care about the uninsured; they care about COSTS.
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He had a FULL DEMOCRAT CONGRESS for the first two years.
Yes, and filibuster rules in the senate allow a party to prevent passage of legislation with a mere 41 votes. This happened time and time again. When Obama would say green, the GOP would say red, just to avoid having to agree with him on any subject.
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He was busy HIDING his true long term agenda ie Amnesty, Common Core and working hard to speak like a "moderate".
None of the things Obama supported were hidden. People constantly accuse him of being a "radical". I would say based on the things that he has been able to accomplish while President, the worst label anyone could apply to him is something like "Eisenhower Republican". The real problem in this country is that there has been something of a shift. What was once conservative is now seen as "centrist". What was once "centrist" is now seen as "liberal".
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Well, for the most part. He actually promised to DESTROY the energy industry specifically coal and BOOST our energy expenses if we DARED to support that industry. While he was busy hypnotizing Millennials with flowery language about "stopping the waters from rising".
If you haven't noticed coal is an ugly fuel. It causes more pollution and is responsible for more CO2 emissions, by far, than oil or natural gas are. The sooner we relegate coal fired power plants to the scrap heap, the better off anyone who does not depend on coal mining for their living will be. Go down to the Grand Canyon sometime and stand on one of the overlooks at the South Rim. There, most days, in the sky you will see what coal fired power plants have done. They aren't worth squat when they can be replaced by something like natural gas.
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He has created EXTENSIVE bureaucratic UNELECTED officials enacting choking REGULATIONS without any Congressional oversight.
The regulations you are referring to existed under other Presidents. The only new regulations created have been part of the implementation process for the ACA. I get tired of Obama constantly being blamed for things that really aren't his fault. The ACA was Obama's "baby" and he deserves both the credit and the blame for this piece of legislation. The rest is a sad, right-wing attempt to reach back and try to blame him for all the regulations and rules enacted under other presidents.
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He didn't try and do the "right thing" with Obamacare as Gruber has proven. He tried to do his IDEOLOGICAL THING. Conservatives found that video of him YEARS before, claiming you can't just JUMP to universal coverage you have to sneak it in slowly but LIBERALS LOVED IT so denied that it meant anything.
Anyone who pretends the healthcare system could have gone on the way it did before the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was passed lives in Fairy Castle Land. Medical costs were rising at a rate of about 7% a year and for all that, forty-six million people in this country had no health insurance! The healthcare system in this country was the laughingstock of the world. The ACA is far from perfect, but already has vastly decreased the number and percentage of people without health insurance. There are reasonable quality and cost questions to be asked about the ACA. However, all but hardcore conservatives couldn't care less about comments like "the ACA is socialism". Big deal.
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He didn't try and do the right thing with Iraq. He tried to do his IDEOLOGICAL thing. the Military, Bush and every single Republican warned him about the Isis outcome.
Where were you when the Administration tried to negotiate an agreement with Prime Minister Al Maliki to allow some of our forces to stay behind? They basically didn't think they needed us and therefore they didn't want us. They wanted to make American soldiers subject to Islamic laws in their country. The only way we could have kept forces in Iraq would have been to give Al Maliki total control over those units of our military. We could only have stayed by telling the Iraqi government that we were in charge and they weren't. That whole idea is just beyond silly.
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Putin? Perhaps you forget Obama and his media sycophants mocking Romney for his EXACT PRECISE WARNING. As did Palin.
Putin was going to do what Putin was going to do regardless of whether Obama or Romney were President. Its a minor issue anyway. Hardly, the sort of thing most people use to determine their vote in a Presidential election.
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NO, he has not been stymied by a recalcitrant Congress. He has been stymied by his INCORRECT ARROGANT WRONG HEADED DOGMATIC INSISTENCE on Progressivism - which will NEVER WORK as proven by the past 60-100 years.
Your opinion. I've seen something quite different. Mitch McConnell said from the beginning his goal was not to cooperate with Obama, it was to make Obama a one term President. Didn't work did it? I am a proud Progressive. I think women should have the right to vote. I believe in a 40 hour work week. I support the right of workers to organize and bargain collectively. I think we ought to elect our own US Senators, instead of letting legislatures do it for us. I support equal rights for gay Americans.
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Besides, do you REALLY NOT understand that Congress does NOT EXIST to play footsie with a power grabbing Executive Branch. They are CO-EQUAL POWERS and the Senate was CREATED as the SLOWING MECHANISM to PREVENT an Obama Presidency from "fundamentally transforming America".
Quite true. But on some level, the Executive and Legislative branches have to cooperate to run this country. Obama offered many compromises over the last 5-6 years which were essentially never considered and completely disregarded. Honestly, some of the Tea Party nuts elected to the House of Representatives are the kind of people who belong in another century.
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Jeeze, he's had the ENTIRE MEDIA except a few Conservatives here and there covering up for him and pushing HIS AGENDA for SIX YEARS!
The media is probably more liberal than conservative. However, Rupert Murdoch's Fox News, should be enough to make all the conservatives happy. Its nothing less than a propaganda machine for the right which operates 24/7.
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And I'm SURE YOU"RE aware the MEDIA is supposed to be CHALLENGING THE GOVERNMENT not an ARM Of their favorite politicians and elitist academic fellow Progressives. Or did you MISS the Washingtonian magazine featuring Jay Carney and Clair Shipman's home with the framed Soviet propaganda art on the wall? Ooooh they're so ~cool. Even I THOUGHT somebody photoshopped that but never found proof that The Washingtonian is an evil right wing commie hating organization.
I've heard them challenge Obama on many things: Solyndra, the bail-out of the banks (which actually made money for the government), the Affordable Care Act, Cap and Trade, the Iran Treaty Talks, ISIS, Ebola policies, etc.)
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But take heart: Elizabeth Warren is next up on the Democrat ticket and she, IMO, may end up being a much better "seller" of Progressivism than Obama ever was. I think she's MUCH more charismatic. She's also about to repair Harry Reid's brand damaging persona in the Senate by being his talking head.
Elizabeth Warren will not be this party's candidate for President in 2016. It will be Hillary Clinton, whom I support.
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It remains to be seen if the machine will prop her up as much as Obama and if she'll get the loyal Progressive system behind her or even the speechwriters and a Valerie Jarrett type running interference. It may be too late and Obama was your ONE SHOT. Because in the long run, he NEVER would have made it without the very Fat Cats and "Wall Street" who Warren for now...claims are the enemy. And I think THE PEOPLE are really OVER IT with the ideology blocking their basic lives like BLOCKING KEYSTONE for six years while private industry and states with energy growth are providing thousands of people good, solid well paying jobs.
I wouldn't spend too much time stewing about Warren.
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Obama passing Executive amnesty is a real political error, IMO, but AGAIN - he couldn't care less. It's about Progressivism and importing a replacement electorate over time. And he's actually doing the corrupt politicians a FAVOR by giving the Chamber of Commerce the CHEAP LABOR they want that is hanging up the Republicans in LIMBO - since they KNOW that the goals of business are contraindicated by the BELIEFS of the citizens. Just like Gruber said: Obama KNOWS the people don't really care about the uninsured; they care about COSTS.
Yawn. If you want to believe that alternative view of history, I can't stop you.
A few words, though, are in order about the state this country was in when Obama became President and the state that it is in now. At that time, our economy was in a tailspin down because of the worst financial crisis to hit this country since the Great Depression. The economy has not gotten better as quickly or as much as anyone would like, but an objective person would at least note the details. Unemployment: Down from 10% to 5.8%. Inflation: At about 1 to 2% per year (where it should be). Interest rates: Still at record lows and making the act of buying a home incomparably easier. Health care costs: The rate of increase has dropped to about 3% or less per year. Oil prices: Down to about $75 a barrel. Which will translate into the lowest gas prices this country has seen in years. Jobs gained per month: At somewhere between 200,000 to 300,000 per month. Many of these are low wage jobs. However, as the labor market inevitably tightens, wages will begin to rise.
Obama's predecessor, on the other hand, got us into wars we didn't need to fight, ignored problems with healthcare, was certainly no better at dealing with opposing political party, denied global warming was real, and opposed research into things like stem cells.
Criticize Obama all you want too. The country is in infinitely better shape than it was when he took office and a blind man ought to be able to see it.
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I am quite surprised little mention of the current Gruber/Pelosi scandal hasn't been mentioned. Ms. Pelosi a few years ago flaunts this super intelligent mastermind as the architect of Health care reform. Yesterday, she never heard of him or met him. I don't know who this man is, to paraphrase her. Well he's the super smart progressive professor who is stomping the country bragging to any fool who will pay to listen, as to how "STUPID" the American voter is. How "deception" was crucial to get the bill passed. How "we are to dumb" to know what's good for us.
Well, folks, we all know who he is referring to. Certainly not those who wanted no part of Obamacare. Just for a short time, tune in the hated FOX network and see who and what your hero's are really about. It's the only place you will hear it other than Rush, Mark Levin and Hannity. Thank the Lord for them.
Your chosen saviors the Democrats in your mind care about the middle income folks. You hear that every day. And Obama can get nothing done as the Republicans block everything.
Well for an example, check out the changes being made to the Reverse Mortgage program next year. This FHA function was intended and directly aimed at helping older retired people who had worked hard, paid their taxes their entire lives, and accumulated some equity to safely receive some funds to make life easier and keep their home in the process. We have all seen the commercials.
Well, the Democratically controlled congress managed to get this "Done" and the savior of the middle class President Obama quickly signed into law a bill which virtually stops most of those middle class folks who would benefit from participating at all. If you should take the time to do some research, you will find many money management sites, something most of us have little use for, flaunting what a great thing this is because it virtually takes the risk out of the funding bonds and makes it even easier for the wealthy to cash in on their equity of up to $625,000 of free money. Tax free! If you own a multi-million dollar home, do you really need this sort of gift from the government? Is this new law really in the interest of the "middle income group'? You Democrats seem to think so. And it was passed with the Liberals in power.
When will you learn. Not only, but especially the Democrats, politicians have one goal. Take away your wealth, your property and your freedom. Every time they pass a law, another little chunk goes away. They may go to Washington with good intentions but seemingly most of them join the gang sooner or later. They have divided us to the point where they can do anything anytime they choose. If they really cared about us, why do they pass so many laws that do not include themselves? Obamacare! If you're a Federal politician for one day, you are guaranteed a life long income and healthcare better than anything you can buy. They certainly took care of themselves. They want to keep the job not so they can continue to do good for you, but for the prestige and power of the position. And they will obviously lie to us to get there. And virtually every one of them don't even live in their district, they choose to live the high life in Washington. Harry Reid is seldom seen in Nevada. Only at election time.
And one last thing. Immigration! Why is it that it is now so important to pass a law when we have good immigration laws on the books that have worked so well for so many? And why is all of this aimed directly at Hispanics? I'm from the northern states where the Somali population has exploded. Asian's and in particular Hmong's and Vietnamese have come in with no apparent immigration issues at all. We all have heritage that came here as the system existed at the time. I have never heard of an immigration issue amongst these people who have been coming here since the 60's using the current laws on the books. Could it be all of these people are also illegal? Or does a certain person in power just need an issue to separate us a little more?
when he was on the ballot, he won, so no spin in the world is going to make the lie you just posted sound true.
And the last time he was on the ballot, one third of the registered Republicans didn't vote! Tit for tat! What's your point?
And the reason the conservatives didn't vote? They didn't like the candidate. At least we have the fortitude to vote our beliefs. With Liberals, well I recall "anybody but Bush" being their mantra. You got somebody. Nobody knows who he is, but he is not Bush for sure!
when he was on the ballot, he won, so no spin in the world is going to make the lie you just posted sound true.
And the last time he was on the ballot, one third of the registered Republicans didn't vote! Tit for tat! What's your point?
And the reason the conservatives didn't vote? They didn't like the candidate. At least we have the fortitude to vote our beliefs. With Liberals, well I recall "anybody but Bush" being their mantra. You got somebody. Nobody knows who he is, but he is not Bush for sure!
This is it. Obama didn't win in 2012 so much as Romney lost. I just could not bring myself to vote for Romney/Ryan. I disliked Obama/Biden almost as much, so I voted for Johnson.
Almost the same thing happened in 2008. McCain had promise as a moderate candidate... then he selected the "Quitta from Masilla" as his veep. I still voted for him, but it was a hard decision. Lots of moderates who would have voted for McCain switched and voted for Obama.
In spite of the "wave" of Republicans getting in this year, if they can't select a better team than McCain/Palin or Romney/Ryan they'll lose again in 2016 and we'll have 12 years of Democrat presidents.
Originally Posted by Tor_Nado Women are flocking to the Republican party in droves
Not this one either. I'm no huge fan of Obama but the Republican party is for the survival and enrichment of the wealthy and to heck with everyone else. That's just my personal opinion - no offense meant to anyone.
Democrats knew they were in trouble on election night Tuesday when a Virginia Senate seat that was expected to be a blowout victory began to come in much closer than expected.
The democrats were not expecting such a result of this election. This means if Hillary runs in 2016 she has to dig herself out of a huge hole. America rejected Obama plain and simple and Hillary was part of the administration
America didn't reject Obama they just went along with the Republican anti Obama hype just like the 2010 elections. Let's not forget the President was elected for a second term and on issues Hillary will beat down any and all Republicans.
No single individual did more to derail the effort to unseat Obama in 2012 than that posturing ideologue, Rick Santorum. The Religious Right is the Republican Party's "captive embarrassment", and the impression created by their fervor and absolutism makes it hard for the more pragmatic within the GOP ranks to distance themselves. If the Democrats are to be turned back again in 2016, it will have to be via a strategy of the "Devil's advocate", allowing them to reveal themselves as a collection of losers and misfits, wedded to a value system not that far from Marxism itself, and a belief that their ends justify any means.
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That's just my personal opinion - no offense meant to anyone. 
