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Old 07-29-2015, 08:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by JerseyGirl415 View Post
20+ years ago people were saying: "You make no sense. A man cannot marry a man, a woman cannot marry a woman. No debate about it."
READ what he wrote. THAT is what I said made no sense.

And my debate comment refers to the fact that there is no issue to debate here. You won't find many reasonable, intelligent people that want to make such marriages possible, ever.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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READ what he wrote. THAT is what I said made no sense.

And my debate comment refers to the fact that there is no issue to debate here. You won't find many reasonable, intelligent people that want to make such marriages possible, ever.
USA has what 10 or 20% of Muslim population? How big is mormon population? And would it be difficult to find a married couple willing to get someone else on board? I bet if ACLU decide to pursue it, people would be found easily.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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READ what he wrote. THAT is what I said made no sense.

And my debate comment refers to the fact that there is no issue to debate here. You won't find many reasonable, intelligent people that want to make such marriages possible, ever.
I thought that poster meant why can't more than two people marry each other. I guess I misinterpreted.

Why do you say that reasonable, intelligent people won't want to or support marriages between more than two people?
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Sure I don't give a $$$$ about what other people do with their lives. If 3 or more people decide they love each other they should be able to go ahead. How would 3 + people being married to each other affect anyone outside of the marriage in anyway? It's pretty much the same premise as same sex marriage, though legal contract wise it's probably way more complicated....
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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No, it's a silly debate. And you are just trolling and baiting. Gays only wanted what others have. To argue that their rights somehow open the door to silly and weird combinations is a hollow argument. In Massachusetts, gays have been marrying for 10 or so years, and I have not heard of any silly situations that you mentioned.

This country is based on monogamy,
and if the Muslims want to follow their Sharia laws and keep multiple wives, then they can move to a Muslim country that allows lt. We have a two spouse system, for both gay and straight people. That's it.


I wonder why some read these threads, much less post to them.

1. You start with the state of MA, where you state gays have been marrying for approximately 10 years. That is MA and fine.

2. This country is not based on marital practices; where do you get the idea is is?

3. We have a what? Two spouses = an individual has two spouses. Perhaps you mean a couple. The US federal government has no legal standing on any of what you list.

Marriage is not enumerated in the Constitution, therefore it is not a concern of the federal government.

Can anyone find it in here(link below)? If you can, drop me a line. When you can't, look to the 10th amendment and realize it is up to the states to make laws concerning education, medicine, marriage and every other grievance people feel a need to take up with the federal government. None of it is in the Constitution and none of it needs to be addressed/entertained by politicians. Politicians are overstepping their bounds and actually breaking their oaths when doing otherwise. The supreme court should be off limits to any of the social BS American citizens are up in arms about - they are not the PC police. I doubt many have read the following document.

US Constitution
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I wonder why some read these threads, much less post to them.

1. You start with the state of MA, where you state gays have been marrying for approximately 10 years. That is MA and fine.

2. This country is not based on marital practices; where do you get the idea is is?

3. We have a what? Two spouses = an individual has two spouses. Perhaps you mean a couple. The US federal government has no legal standing on any of what you list.

Marriage is not enumerated in the Constitution, therefore it is not a concern of the federal government.

Can anyone find it in here(link below)? If you can, drop me a line. When you can't, look to the 10th amendment and realize it is up to the states to make laws concerning education, medicine, marriage and every other grievance people feel a need to take up with the federal government. None of it is in the Constitution and none of it needs to be addressed/entertained by politicians. Politicians are overstepping their bounds and actually breaking their oaths when doing otherwise. The supreme court should be off limits to any of the social BS American citizens are up in arms about - they are not the PC police. I doubt many have read the following document.

US Constitution
Your interpretation of the Constitution is one interpretation. It is not the only one, as many supreme court justices have pointed out.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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When I was saying, the primary goal of marriage, I was speaking more of historical/biblical context, and not of its current implementation. Obviously, people can be married for variety of reasons nowadays, including "to get US citizenship", get some tax breaks, or prevent any other b'itch to marry that guy. But can we say any of those are reasons why institute of marriage was brought in the first place?
What difference does it make? We aren't alive back then, we are alive now.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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I think our society will evolve into accepting any form of marriage sooner or later. Or at least I don't see why it shouldn't
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Your interpretation of the Constitution is one interpretation. It is not the only one, as many supreme court justices have pointed out.
You just alluded to the fact politicians are crooked oathbreakers. Why does the Constitution need interpretation? It wasn't written so. It is written in plain English and not in legal terms requiring lawyers. A judge should rule whether or not one is in accordance with federal or state law.

Supreme court justices (unelected officials) are legislating from the bench and congress needs to call them to task about it.

You didn't and never have read it if you can respond so quickly. Don't feel bad; you have lots of company.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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It's between two adults.
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