Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
4,750 posts, read 3,567,817 times
Reputation: 4614

Advertisements



The University of New Hampshire has created a "Bias-Free Language Guide," which it says "is not a means to censor but ... presents practical revisions in our common usage that can ... break barriers relating to diversity." It includes a long list of "problematic/outdated" words, along with a "preferred" alternative. A search suggests the guide was posted in late May, but it's just today grabbing headlines. Why the interest? For one, as Jonathan Chait puts it at New York, the guide "indicates that the list of terms that can give offense has grown quite long indeed." A sampling:

Preferred: people of advanced age, old people*
Problematic/Outdated: older people, elders, seniors, senior citizen
*Old people has been reclaimed by some older activists who believe the standard wording of old people lacks the stigma of the term “advanced age”. Old people also halts the euphemizing of age. Euphemizing automatically positions age as a negative.

Preferred: person who lacks advantages that others have, low economic status related to a person’s education, occupation and income
Problematic: poor person, person from the ghetto
Note: Some people choose to live a life that is not connected to the consumer world of material possessions. They do not identify as “poor”.

Preferred: person of material wealth
Problematic: rich
Being rich gets conflated with a sort of omnipotence; hence, immunity from customs and the law. People without material wealth could be wealthy or rich of spirit, kindness, etc.

Preferred: people of size
Problematic/Outdated: obese*, overweight people
"Obese" is the medicalization of size, and "overweight" is arbitrary; for example, standards differ from one culture to another.
Note: "Fat", a historically derogatory term, is increasingly being reclaimed by people of size and their allies, yet for some, it is a term that comes from pain.

Preferred: US citizen or Resident of the US
Problematic: American
Note: North Americans often use “American” which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America

Preferred: First-year students
Problematic/Outdated: freshmen

Preferred: Other Sex
Problematic/Outdated: Opposite Sex
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-30-2015, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Japan
15,292 posts, read 7,761,514 times
Reputation: 10006
Ha, ha, the president of UNH has issued a statement disavowing this guide which appears on the university's official website.

Bias-Free Language Guide | Inclusive Excellence

That's what happens when you start creating positions like "Dean of Diversity". What are those people going to do all day but sit around and write crap like this?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
4,750 posts, read 3,567,817 times
Reputation: 4614
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment View Post
Ha, ha, the president of UNH has issued a statement disavowing this guide which appears on the university's official website.

Bias-Free Language Guide | Inclusive Excellence

That's what happens when you start creating positions like "Dean of Diversity". What are those people going to do all day but sit around and write crap like this?
Yeah, he pretty much has to justify his job.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:03 AM
 
34,619 posts, read 21,621,539 times
Reputation: 22232
I'd love to see them add:

Preferred: place where people go in order to receive unfair privilege
Problematic: university
Since not everyone has the access or means to attend a university it should be noted that attending such a place grants an unfair advantage over all others and leads to economic injustice
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:12 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
52,697 posts, read 34,564,185 times
Reputation: 29289
'people of size'

huh? what size? big? little?

and yet they complain that the term 'overweight' is arbitrary?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,495,743 times
Reputation: 27720
European-American now instead of just White ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Southern California
12,713 posts, read 15,539,449 times
Reputation: 35512
lol @ people of size

We are all people of size, some just much bigger size than others.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
16,558 posts, read 10,635,195 times
Reputation: 36574
One reason why the "preferred" terms won't gain much traction in general usage is that, in most cases, they are longer and more unwieldy than the terms being replaced. Americans -- oh, sorry, "U.S. Citizens" -- tend to like to shorten and abbreviate things. Thus, Federal Express became FedEx; Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC; Provident National Bank became PNC Corp.; Consumer Value Store became CVS; and so on.

Now, if they can find terms that are shorter than the ones being replaced, they just might succeed. Maybe "U.S. Citizen" could become "User," though we'd have to know based on the context that it's pronounced "Us-er" (that's "us" as in "us vs. them") instead of the already existing "uze-er" (that is, one who uses something). Oh heck, let's just leave it as "American."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
31,848 posts, read 17,615,406 times
Reputation: 29385
This one doesn't even make sense:

Quote:
Preferred: person who lacks advantages that others have, low economic status related to a person’s education, occupation and income
Problematic: poor person, person from the ghetto
Note: Some people choose to live a life that is not connected to the consumer world of material possessions. They do not identify as “poor”.
You could have a great education and make a lot of money and still choose to live a life without a lot of material possessions. The preferred describes status one was born into, while the note refers to choice.


Preferred: People hailing from other lands
Problematic: Foreigner

Preferred: Person's misguided attempt to do something meaningful
Problematic: Moron who wrote the "Bias Free Language Guide"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-30-2015, 08:40 AM
 
28,164 posts, read 25,310,566 times
Reputation: 16665
How stupid.

Holy doublespeak, Batman!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:43 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top