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Old 12-14-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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Many Iraqis already want out of Finland

“I'm ready to go back home as early as tomorrow,” Tareq Thajeel Ajaj declares at a reception centre in Otaniemi, Espoo, after withdrawing his asylum application.

Ajaj says he is drawn back to his home in northern Iraq by news that his father has fallen seriously ill but, first and foremost, by his disappointment with Finland: the country did not turn out to be quite what human traffickers promised on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea. He is especially fed up with inactivity and local food after spending four months at the reception centre.

“I don't know what will happen to me in Iraq, but here I'm dying on the inside,” he says.

More and more Iraqis are withdrawing their asylum applications, according to the regional office of the International Organization for Migration (IOM) in Helsinki. “The number of people returning voluntarily has grown tremendously this autumn,” says Julia Evans, a junior co-ordinator at IOM Helsinki.

IOM Helsinki serves as a tour operator for asylum seekers who are ready to return to their country of origin and have applied to a voluntary return programme launched by the Finnish Immigration Service (Migri). They will be provided with a free return to their country of origin, which – for Finland – is an affordable alternative to having a law enforcement officer escort them out of the country.

The number of voluntary returnees has risen steadily, and the record books are likely to be re-written again in December.

Iraqis are by far the largest nationality group among the voluntary returnees, having accounted for 60 of the 78 people who left the country in October and for 72 of the 111 who did so in November.

The numbers do remain low in comparison to the overall number of asylum seekers, however.

Thabeet Al-Aswad from Baghdad is another asylum seeker who is desperate to get back home, despite the fact that his family was threatened because of him. Al-Aswad says he is tired and distressed, unable to sleep well in the cramped reception centre, and desperate for something meaningful to do.

“The service here hasn't been what we were expecting. It'd be great if we got to work and live a normal life,” he says.

Al-Aswad has now been in the country for three months. Also he is willing to return home as soon as possible.

The voluntary returnees are motivated by a variety of factors – typically by the fact that the security situation in their home region has improved since their departure. A number of Iraqis have according to Evans explained their decision by telling that something bad has happened to one of their family members or relatives and that they want to return home to take care of them.

“Another reason could be that they don't want to stay here waiting for a decision they've realised won't come as soon as they were expecting. They may also have realised that bringing their family to Finland through a family reunification isn't quite as easy,” she says.

IOM assists the departees in several ways. It will arrange transportation from the reception centre to the airport to departees already in possession of a passport. The departees will also receive assistance both in a possible transit country and their country of origin.

The Finnish Immigration Service also pays a nominal allowance for people returning to their country of origin voluntarily. For Iraqis, the allowance is usually between 50 and 100 euros – sometimes more. Some, however, return to their country of origin without any official assistance.

Jukka Harju, Maija Aalto – HS
Aleksi Teivainen – HT
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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So-o......what are they serving for food in Finland these days?
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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I bet no one told them it was cold and snowed in Finland. An idea, go home, defend your country.
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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Gives me an idea...... We could accept Syrian refugees and establish the reception center in Duluth, MN. Then establish a brand new government program designed to help them relocate.

The cost will be astronomical so people will hate it, the program will fail, no one will ever be relocated, and within 60 days they will all want to go back to Syria.
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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Gives me an idea...... We could accept Syrian refugees and establish the reception center in Duluth, MN. Then establish a brand new government program designed to help them relocate.

The cost will be astronomical so people will hate it, the program will fail, no one will ever be relocated, and within 60 days they will all want to go back to Syria.
No, Barrow Alaska would be better. Close to oil fields so they'll feel at home.
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Gives me an idea...... We could accept Syrian refugees and establish the reception center in Duluth, MN. Then establish a brand new government program designed to help them relocate
Not sure if that would work. There are up to 50,000 Somali refugees in Minnesota, and they love it there.

Mick
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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So-o......what are they serving for food in Finland these days?
Probably not enough hummus & goat kebabs.
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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A good number of refugees do want to go home. It's just, their home is currently a war zone. The security situation in Iraq, unlike Syria, is improving, so some Iraqi refugees will naturally return.
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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Some of the "refugees" have admitted in media interviews that they're economic migrants looking for a better life.

I wonder when the open-borders thing and welcome wagon will include Americans? Could we just fly to Turkey and stroll into the EU, and be allocated an apartment?
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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If my home town was getting bombed, I'd want to seek safety for my family. If things were getting better in my hometown, I'd want to go back to try to build a life there again.

If I ended up in a country that was trying to help feed and house my family, I'd be very thankful. It wouldn't mean I'd like it though.

If I was sent to some country where it was incredibly hot all the time, I wouldn't like it.
If I was sent to some country where I had to eat slimy weird things, or extremely hot spicy things, or things that go against everything I believe in (like dog or horse meat), I'd complain also. I would turn vegetarian if the only meat offered was dog or horse meat.

Anyways, you can't blame some of them for wanting to go back, no matter what the reason even if it is just home-sickness for the culture and foods that they have known all their lives. The trauma of first being in a war torn country and then being shipped to an alien land with alien food and alien culture would not be easy. I'd want to go back too, if it was at all possible.
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